Fedora KDE Desktop Spin Promoted To Same Tier As GNOME-Based Fedora Workstation

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  • Chugworth
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2019
    • 389

    #41
    A few months ago I started testing distros again to try and determine what would be a good Linux distro for a novice user, and I settled on the KDE edition of Fedora. It seemed like the best balance for up-to-date software in a stable system that's not too complicated. And I liked that the installer lets you configure Btrfs subvolumes. Just add the btrfs-assistant app and it easily handles snapshots and rollbacks as well.

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    • Daktyl198
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 1576

      #42
      Originally posted by hf_139 View Post
      I just hope RedHat stays with GNOME.
      I don't need those disgusting NSA assets infecting other Desktop Environment.
      Stay in your cell.
      My man, Red Hat is owned by IBM. If you think IBM doesn't have extremely close ties with the government you're sorely mistaken 😂

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      • Landway12
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2024
        • 23

        #43
        Excellent!

        Now let's hope Canonical also admit the necessary change, and gradually starts to de-commission Gnome in favor of KDE as well.

        The more KDE can be seen as an alternative to Windows, the more potential exposure/users Linux gets, and the more resources can be allocated. We in the Linux community need to stop thinking of "choices", and more about how to get critical things right. We do not need the choice of 20 inferior DEs, we need 1 equal or superior [to Windows/Max], if Microsoft/Apple are to be de-throned.

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        • yump
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2021
          • 509

          #44
          It is... unfortunate that actions such as this one require such careful negotiation, create such tension, and are necessary to begin with.

          I've been using KDE on Fedora for a couple years now, and I hope this goes as well as possible.

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          • Chugworth
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2019
            • 389

            #45
            Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post

            My man, Red Hat is owned by IBM. If you think IBM doesn't have extremely close ties with the government you're sorely mistaken 😂
            Yeah, and we're talking about open source software here, compiled by the distros. If there's some questionable code, point it out.

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            • joaquinvacas
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2022
              • 36

              #46
              Originally posted by Landway12 View Post
              The more KDE can be seen as an alternative to Windows...
              I also like KDE but that doesn't imply that desktop environments are something written in stone. While I don't care about 234 DEs, you can have mature ones like KDE and GNOME with shared parts due to XDG and let that be the standards, not the DEs on their own so each user will find its preferred way.

              Also, anything can be seen as an alternative to Windows → an user should not expect to have the same environment on a totally different OS, and that's it.

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              • Damnshock
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 121

                #47
                Originally posted by You- View Post

                Fedora doesn't have enough KDE contributors to push it as the same as gnome.
                Please, point your sources to issue such an statement.

                Remember, one of the reasons X11 support is not on the KDE install by default is the argument that they had too few resources to offer both.
                That is absolutely not true. You are phrasing it like that because it suits your purposes. (not to mention that Fedora workstation is going the same way (and even Red Hat itself: https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/..._dropping_x11/)

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                • Damnshock
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 121

                  #48
                  Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
                  And people said the proposal was an April Fools joke (even though it had been proposed a few days prior). Well, they took it very seriously for something that was supposed to be a joke…
                  Correction: it was published exactly on April's 1st.

                  Source: I am one of the submitters

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                  • Damnshock
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 121

                    #49
                    Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post

                    The reason for confusion is as there will now be two desktops offered by default that have vastly different levels of quality control and understanding of offering a quality product which practically means the KDE project as a whole has absolutely no understanding of quality at all. Overall it will be quite a quality downgrade to Fedora as a whole and may damage the brand of the project for years. It should have stayed a spin.
                    This is just not true. Both Workstation and Fedora KDE Spin have had the same level on QA for years

                    Source: I am a member of the KDE SIG

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                    • sophisticles
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 2591

                      #50
                      They need to be honest with the public.

                      Red Hat gives the Fedora project about 500k a year and provides them with technical assistance but this goes only to the official edition, not any of the spins.

                      There was a guy on these forums that was a member of the KDE SIG that said they do not get a dime from Fedora for working on the KDE version, what this move will do is cause the Fedora group to split the gravy between the Gnome version developers and the KDE version developers.

                      It's about money, like most things in life.

                      This is why the KDE SIG group tried to have their version supplant the Gnome version, so that they could get all the dough, but obviously the Gnome version people were not about to give up their cash cow after all these years, so they worked out a compromise and decided to split the cash.

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