Fedora 41 Releases Today With Many Shiny New Features

[patrick1946]

I use it as a work desktop. I never upgrade immediately though. After a new Fedora release is out, I wait for about two months, then check the compatibility of apps and tools that I use, the do a system backup, then upgrade. I've done it for 5 years now, and I never had a borked system I'd have to reinstall.

I use Fedora Silverblue. I rebase to the new release, and if it is broken, I roll back to the old one. It is super easy.

[Morvan]

I installed even yesterday, albeit downloaded just when home.
Very impressed with download (updates) speed. DNF works better. Astonishing. Today, when home again, to polish everything. I liked.

[Massa]

So you didn't bother looking in rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing repo


https://mirrors.neterra.net/rpmfusio...iew/index.html

Ahh, I didn't find that, thanks for the heads-up!

[maxmousee]

Updated my personal machine and so far so good
But my personal machine is just for light dev work, youtube, web browsing.
Quite happy with Fedora since I got the framework AMD

[GruenSein]

Does this help fix your issue?

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gdk-message-error-71-protocol-error-dispatching-to-wayland-display/127927/15

I followed this and it got my flatpaks to open normally again, this is on Fedora 40 fyi:
mkdir -p ~/.config/environment.d
echo "GSK_RENDERER=ngl" >> ~/.config/environment.d/gsk.conf

You may want to do a reboot to make sure the changes take full effect. Please get back to me and let me know if this helps you. You can simply delete the environment.d folder if nothing changes.

Hi Scotty, just a brief FYI. On F41, your solution works as you explained. Not sure why this wasn't the case for F40 on my end. Thanks for the hint. I will wait for the nvidia driver 565 to hit the rpmfusion repo and then try to switch back to Vulkan.

[Rovano]

You don't have to constantly update. You don't have to do it even on a rolling distro, let alone Fedora. I don't understand where this belief comes from that you have to install updates as soon as they roll out.

You have to update all the time. I didn't update TW like this a few months ago and it died. A friend of mine had the same fate.

[Rovano]

Me, for example. I have been using Fedora as a server distro for my home server since 2021. It works perfectly and stable. I really like SELinux. Every two months I do updates and restart it. Next week it has a planned update. This time, it will upgrade to the 41th version. It's very simple. I don't see any problems with update/release cycles.

2 months without security patches?

[logical]

Fedora is not a server distro, what makes you think it would be a good idea to run it on a server? Use RHEL, Alma, Rocky etc. For a desktop, for me with its 6 montly cycles it strikes the right balance between reliability and being up-to-date.

There is a server-specific install of Fedora, called ironically enough, Fedora Server. Fedora Workstation and Fedora Server are separate things.

[DumbFsck]

You have to update all the time. I didn't update TW like this a few months ago and it died. A friend of mine had the same fate.

Weird. One of my machines running TW was gathering dust for like a whole year, I recently turned it on again, a couple of months ago, did a zypper dup and all was well.

Luck of the draw I guess.

[DumbFsck]

I love me some Tumbleweed, but Fedora strikes a fairly unique balance of new stuff + solid testing (with paid humans even!). I have encountered far less bugs with Fedora 6 month releases than I have with Ubuntu 6 month releases. I also have better things to do than spend time maintaining a bunch of systems, which is why I'm on (Fedora Silverblue based) Bluefin now . Also, I don't expect Christian will be using anything but Fedora unless he changes jobs .

I did the exact opposite! Sometimes Fedora is a bit too quick for my liking and "quicker" than TW. Not in package versions, of course, but in tech stack changes. See for example Wayland and pipewire, tumbleweed stayed on X and Pulse for much longer, for pipewire they waited until wirepumbler was ready to cover "all" possible regressions, so in my experience even updating more frequently and getting more up to date software TW has been more solid for my use case (like, I can have a more up to date kernel or mesa or whatever, but am still protected from regressions from adopting new tech that may be not really ready yet).

I agree that this is not necessarily something that affects some spins and derivatives, and personally I would consoder something derived from OStree, but since I'm a tumbleweed user, Aeon/Kalpa have my back.


I will say that for people who like tinkering with new, not fully baked, tech, you can still do it with tumbleweed, and from the examples above I did so with pipewire. And also will say that there's nothing wrong with Fedora.

It is, I believe, necessary for the ecosystem to have distros like Fedora that are willing to "break" by default - to battle test new features, yes there's Arch and many others that can get software much more quickly and bleeding, even TW, but Fedora ships the packages on their ISO and dedicate time and effort to make it work, which is also absolutely essential.