Fedora 41 Releases Today With Many Shiny New Features

[mattdm]

Just one row above there is a "Current Final Target date". It's always been like that, but apparently Fedora releases used to tend towards the end of the release time window.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US..._release_dates

We used to only put the optimistic target date into the published release schedule. That was often too optimistic, and we wouldn't always meet it. That's a normal part of development, especially in a project that tries to integrate thousands of independent unstreams. But, inevitably in those cases, the headlines on, ahem, some popular Linux news sites would read "Fedora late again!"

But, if we just made the schedule longer, human beings being what are are, many people would procrastinate or focus on more urgent matters until the deadlines got close. So, instead, we publish the optimistic target in the schedule, but ask the public to expect and plan around a later target.

Also, before somewhere in the F20s, we'd base the start of each new release's schedule on the release of the previous one. That meant that the delays were cumulative, causing the release dates to jump unpredictably around the calendar. Now we consistently aim for the beginning of May and November -- if the previous release was really late, we just have a shorter cycle to make up for it.

[spockfish]

Good for you. You might as well go to a rolling distro as Arch or Tumbleweed. For me, it's out of the question. Too fast moving. I got better things to do than virtually constantly updating.

I've been a long time Tumbleweed user, but that was moving a little bit too fast for my taste on my daily laptop. Still, a great distro.

Fedora brings for me personally the best of both worlds. It's stable, the amount of polish and dedication is huge, the latest greatest wrt technology ... And still the latest kernel (amongst others).

[Espionage724]

I've been running F41 beta for a bit and like it! GNOME 47 and Wayland on F41 solved my years-longstanding issue with Wayland with my mouse feeling floaty; it finally feels as-connected as it did from Xorg and Windows, and now I can entertain Wayland being some kind of upgrade to Xorg worth talking about

I self-host a wiki with different distro notes (HW conf, tweaks) and have some for Fedora 41:

Workstation: https://wiki.realmofespionage.xyz/li...kstation_gnome

Server: https://wiki.realmofespionage.xyz/li...:fedora_server

I also added some new stuff with dnf5; and also (not F41-specific) recently got World of Warcraft (3.3.5) running pure-Wayland (graphics=wayland, renderer=vulkan): https://wiki.realmofespionage.xyz/li...vulkan_wow_335

[Espionage724]

People run Fedora as a serious distro on their desktops/servers? The way Fedora does its updates and release cycles, will virtually never make me consider it as a decent desktop/server distro.

Are you kidding? I've been using Fedora and openSUSE TW on my webserver since 2016 no problem, and actively been running Fedora Server 41 beta too. My website standing is proof https://wiki.realmofespionage.xyz/

I like up-to-date tech, and have my server conf down well enough that I can wipe it clean and set it back up in about an hour with copy/pasting commands bare-metal. I like Fedora for SELinux, and openSUSE TW for rolling.

[finalzone]

- A background that changes with the time of day is completely missing in the settings.

Bug fix on https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/upda...024-2c6a9cf88f

[Espionage724]

- A background that changes with the time of day is completely missing in the settings.

I solved that a while back when it happened (seems to be a recurring issue ) with this:

gsettings set 'org.gnome.desktop.background' 'picture-uri' '/usr/share/backgrounds/f'*'/default/f'*'.xml'

However in F41's case, their F41 XML is still pointing at the F40 background location (which doesn't exist; thus blue/no background even though that gsettings works). Looks easy-enough to fix right now with changing the XML or symlinking the F41 background to a F40 folder (what I'd do if I cared enough ; I maximize Firefox or games most of the time though)

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

I like Fedora for SELinux, and openSUSE TW for rolling.

FYI since it is kind of interesting, Tumbleweed is going to change its default LSM from AppArmor to SELinux soon. Ubuntu is heavily invested in AppArmor with Snaps, but now 2/3 of the commercial enterprise distros will have their upstream on SELinux (and some other OpenSUSE variants are already on SELinux).

[stormcrow]

Two weeks too early?

https://fedorapeople.org/groups/sche...key-tasks.html

Final Target date #1 Fedora users plan on this

Tue 2024-11-12

Nah. That's the second release of Fedora 41. Cuz in 2 weeks after release nearly the whole system will have been replaced because of bug fixes to the first release... just not the annoying bug you might want fixed.

[npwx]

People run Fedora as a serious distro on their desktops/servers? The way Fedora does its updates and release cycles, will virtually never make me consider it as a decent desktop/server distro.

I'm running it on around 50 servers because initially a required some features which hadn't made it into RHEL and clones yet. I have however grown rather unhappy with this choice over time, mainly because they leave many nice performance optimizations like subarch support on the table. Paying quite a lot of money for these servers I'd prefer to actually use their capabilities. Updates are another factor, being forced to switch to a new major version at least once a year is not ideal, resulting in me often staying on unsupported versions for a while.

[jacob]

Are there any news on Silverblue?

I've been running Silverblue 41 for a couple of weeks now. It's very stable.