Ubuntu Considers Replacing initramfs-tools WIth Dracut

[ruff]

stupid article. doesn't say why and which problems are they trying to solve by this. someone is doing something. Now that's the analytics.

[bkdwt]

Drop grub and use systemd-boot too.

[Gabbb]

Drop grub and use systemd-boot too.

How about no! xD

[Rovano]

Drop grub and use systemd-boot too.

That's what they used to say. That there is still a long way to go. Maybe that journey is coming to an end.

[varikonniemi]

It's always mostly been ideology that separated distros. Back in the day, all distros were united behind GNU tools so much that the GNU/Linux name and meme was actually viable. Then there was a weird period for the last 10 or so years where everything has slowly been shifting away from GNU tools to more modern versions of everything. Distros actually got a lot more "dynamic" and varied during this time, but it's slowly going back to the way it was before, with most distros being 99% the same software just with different configs and defaults.

A time when corporate interest looked at capturing the market, but then realized it's not as easy as they thought, and lost interest after cost/benefit analysis. Throwing money around to force your inferior ideas on others has a limited reach in the open source world.

[jacob]

I've started to wonder about this. Distros are unifying and the line between them blurs more and more. Soon the only difference is the distribution of packages and the package manager.

You are right, but personally I feel that's a good thing.

[jacob]

The main difference for me (other than highly specialised distros like openwrt) is the update cadence and stability: what you want on the continuum between Debian and Arch, as well as political decisions like your stance on snaps. You can do more or less anything on more or less any distro. I don't think it makes sense to choose a distro because of something like dracut.

I like "the continuum between Debian and Arch". Another continuum is the level of GUI integration, between say Debian, Arch etc. that are agnostic with little integration at all, and the likes of Ubuntu, Fedora etc that are GUI systems first and foremost. Obviously there us the related point of which GUI is being used.

[EphemeralEft]

Yet™

I'm sure systemd-boot would take its role if it were feasible though

They’re already working on it. It’s called “mkosi”.

[luno]

I would think the entire snaps & flatpaks and whatever else is like them would want to disassociate from any given Linux distro. After all, I thought those tools/applications were intended to "liberate" (maybe not the best word, but it came to mind) an application from the underlying OS, resulting in "OS neutral" applications. Thus, the application only has to work within that snaps/flatpaks/whatever environment.

If Linux distros were smart, and some are while some are not, they should just make the snaps/flatpaks/whatever tools available within the limits of their maintainer workload. Leave the applications to the outside snaps/flatpaks/whatever developers/maintainers to handle.

But then there is the entire world of distro packaging to contend with. Just when I thought there was a reasonable solution the Linux ecosystem has to throw a curve ball.

And here I thought the 2 dozen or so different disk formats of CP/M were crazy way back when.

flatpak runtime are huge though which becomes problem in lot of devices specially tablets

[bkdwt]

How about no! xD

How about YES! xD