Ubuntu 24.10 Now Available With Linux 6.11, GCC 14 & Other Upgrades

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Ubuntu 24.10 Now Available With Linux 6.11, GCC 14 & Other Upgrades

The Ubuntu 24.10 "Oracular Oriole" ISOs are now officially available as the newest six-month update to Ubuntu Linux...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-Released

[Topolino]

As usual Canonical also did a lot of packaging work on Debian. It's really great and far beyond "barely builds".

[Malsabku]

They should care more for the LTS releases...Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is still stuck at Gnome 46.0 (ZERO!)

And in Ubuntu 24.10 there is still MATE 1.26 (MATE 1.28 was released 10 months ago) and Cinnamon 6.0 (Cinnamon 6.2 was released 4 months ago)

GNOME snap stack also seems dead...Gnome Calendar still at 44.1, most other Gnome apps are stuck at 45.0

I'm still an Ubuntu user, but sad about the current status.

[Rovano]

They should care more for the LTS releases...Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is still stuck at Gnome 46.0 (ZERO!)

And in Ubuntu 24.10 there is still MATE 1.26 (MATE 1.28 was released 10 months ago) and Cinnamon 6.0 (Cinnamon 6.2 was released 4 months ago)

GNOME snap stack also seems dead...Gnome Calendar still at 44.1, most other Gnome apps are stuck at 45.0

I'm still an Ubuntu user, but sad about the current status.

ad Cinnamon are mixed versions of packages (included 6.2).

ad GNOME46.0 or Calender 44.1
is something wrong in your OS. Here is 46.1.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calendar

ad MATE 1.26
https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-...release-notes/ What didn’t change since the Ubuntu MATE 24.04 LTS?

If you follow upstream MATE Desktop development, then you’ll have noticed that Ubuntu MATE 24.10 doesn’t ship with the recently released MATE Desktop 1.28 🧉

I have prepared packaging for MATE Desktop 1.28, along with the associated components but encountered some bugs and regressions 🐞 I wasn’t able to get things to a standard I’m happy to ship be default, so it is tried and true MATE 1.26.2 one last time 🪨


Please, next time send your questions to Google.com. Thx.

[Espionage724]

They should care more for the LTS releases...Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is still stuck at Gnome 46.0 (ZERO!)

And in Ubuntu 24.10 there is still MATE 1.26 (MATE 1.28 was released 10 months ago) and Cinnamon 6.0 (Cinnamon 6.2 was released 4 months ago)

GNOME snap stack also seems dead...Gnome Calendar still at 44.1, most other Gnome apps are stuck at 45.0

I'm still an Ubuntu user, but sad about the current status.

Why are you in a rush while also relying on LTS?

I was on 24.04 a few days ago and didn't care anything about the GNOME version; 46 worked, and 47 is nicer on Wayland, which is now available with 24.10 with extra shiny stuff (kernel and graphics stack)

[Malsabku]

ad GNOME46.0 or Calender 44.1
is something wrong in your OS. Here is 46.1.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calendar

Most packages in the GNOME 46 stack in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS are outdated.

Let's take a look
Upstream version / Ubuntu 24.04 LTS version / Snap version

evince 46.3 / 46.0 / 45.0
gnome-boxes 46.1 / 46.0 / 45.0
epiphany 46.4 / 46.0 / 46.2
mutter 46.5 / 46.2
gnome-terminal 3.52.2 / 3.52.0
gnome-shell 46.5 / 46.0
etc...

gnome-calendar is still 44.1 in the snap version ( https://snapcraft.io/gnome-calendar )

I have prepared packaging for MATE Desktop 1.28, along with the associated components but encountered some bugs and regressions 🐞 I wasn’t able to get things to a standard I’m happy to ship be default, so it is tried and true MATE 1.26.2 one last time 🪨

Fedora was able to upgrade to MATE 1.28 with Fedora 40, over 6 months ago. So this can't be an argument.

Please, next time send your questions to Google.com. Thx.

Please don't flame.

[F.Ultra]

Most packages in the GNOME 46 stack in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS are outdated.

Let's take a look
Upstream version / Ubuntu 24.04 LTS version / Snap version

evince 46.3 / 46.0 / 45.0
gnome-boxes 46.1 / 46.0 / 45.0
epiphany 46.4 / 46.0 / 46.2
mutter 46.5 / 46.2
gnome-terminal 3.52.2 / 3.52.0
gnome-shell 46.5 / 46.0
etc...

gnome-calendar is still 44.1 in the snap version ( https://snapcraft.io/gnome-calendar )


Fedora was able to upgrade to MATE 1.28 with Fedora 40, over 6 months ago. So this can't be an argument.


Please don't flame.

Since point releases of GNOME can include regressions and new functionality and not only bug fixes, Ubuntu have since some time ago stopped to automatically update the point releases and they are now only added on a case by case basis.

[Malsabku]

Since point releases of GNOME can include regressions and new functionality and not only bug fixes, Ubuntu have since some time ago stopped to automatically update the point releases and they are now only added on a case by case basis.

But this is an inconsistent behaviour. All these point releases dont have new features, while mutter 46.2 had this nvidia thing. And its already in noble, although disabled.

[sarmad]

As usual Canonical also did a lot of packaging work on Debian. It's really great and far beyond "barely builds".

This is the kind of work that people often underestimate. It's one of the reasons why people think that Canonical doesn't contribute enough.

[F.Ultra]

But this is an inconsistent behaviour. All these point releases dont have new features, while mutter 46.2 had this nvidia thing. And its already in noble, although disabled.

The problem is that GNOME broke the "point releases is only bug fixes" release schedule that every other open source project follows. It's not also possible to vet these releases for a stable distro like Ubuntu because they will always contain both fixes and new functionality meaning that you have to isolate the fixes and apply them as backports, aka you have to perform actual software development instead of distro maintainment.

mutter 46.2 was such a release that they after deliberation decided to include in noble due to the fix for nvidia and it is not disabled, I got it in 24.04 by default:

f.ultra@Sineya:~$ apt-cache policy mutter-common
mutter-common:
  Installerad: 46.2-1ubuntu0.24.04.2
  Kandidat:    46.2-1ubuntu0.24.04.2
  Versionstabell:
     46.2-1ubuntu0.24.04.3 100
        100 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-proposed/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-proposed/main i386 Packages
 *** 46.2-1ubuntu0.24.04.2 500
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     46.0-1ubuntu9 500
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main i386 Packages
f.ultra@Sineya:~$