System76 Releases COSMIC Alpha 2 Desktop Packages

[mrg666]

I hate about Linux

Yeah we know
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[sophisticles]

Since you like those things, and the inane complaining you do, you seem to take real issue with FOSS concepts but like business concepts. You'd feel at home on a Windows forum instead of a Linux one.

This sentence perfectly embodies one the main things I hate about Linux, people act like only software released under the GPL is FOSS, when MIT, BSD and similar licensed software is also FOSS and in fact more so.

[Espionage724]

XFCE looks like it's stuck in 2005.

(scoff) as-if I'd let Xfce look that modern

I don't really like the QT world, and therefore have never really been appealed by KDE, although I might try it again soon, see if I could do something with it.
I've adopted Budgie, and I like it, but it lacks a little too much to make it my daily go-to. I hope it will be different with Budgie 11.

I am willing to try anything in the hope it will finally be on-par with my workflow and allow me to switch away from Gnome (that is usable with 15 extensions and heavy cosmetic tweaks). My hope is on Cosmic right now.

Ah, cool!

My core apps are mostly GTK and I got to avoiding Qt stuff when-possible a while back after theming inconsistencies. I don't mind Qt if I'm using KDE (or Windows), but I don't really have a reason to use KDE either. I liked Budgie on Solus!

Xfce's my go-to since its been reliable and not in a rush for Wayland, and does basically everything I need it to. Default Greybird theme looks good, but I'm enjoying Chicago95 way more than I thought I would

[ezst036]

I didn't realize that you can pay your mortgage, insurance, electricity, gas, food, housing, etc with free bug reports.

So when the time comes to pay their employees, instead of paying them with money via ADP, they will have ADP deposit free feedback into their accounts?How does that sound?

Enthusiasts always provide their feedback for free, even Windows has people doing it, and Apple's cult is the same; and those are corporate products who will exploit that free labor. There's never been a need to pay the enthusiasts through ADP or any other, that's nothing new.

Why is this a problem for you all of a sudden?

[Mez']

Why not Plasma, Xfce, or anything else?

XFCE looks like it's stuck in 2005.
I don't really like the QT world, and therefore have never really been appealed by KDE, although I might try it again soon, see if I could do something with it.
I've adopted Budgie, and I like it, but it lacks a little too much to make it my daily go-to. I hope it will be different with Budgie 11.

I am willing to try anything in the hope it will finally be on-par with my workflow and allow me to switch away from Gnome (that is usable with 15 extensions and heavy cosmetic tweaks). My hope is on Cosmic right now.

[Mez']

You conveniently ignored the main crux of what I said, namely that by not only releasing COSMIC to the community, but also actively helping other distros to adopt it, they are effectively hurting their business.

Unlike Red Hat, Fedora, Suse, Manjaro, Ubuntu, et al, PoP_OS is designed to sell computer systems for a profit.

By allowing PoP_OS to be downloaded and installed on any computer, S76 is hurting their business by eliminating a reason to buy their systems.

By releasing PoP_OS+COSMIC for free download in binary format, they eliminate any unique feature that would make a S76 computer a must buy.

By allowing COSMIC to be installed on other distros, they effectively make PoP_OS redundant.

Capice?

Yes, I ignored it, because it is entirely irrelevant. And people have told you off enough about it.

Making yourself know or installed in many places is a better marketing tool for your own devices than Apple will ever do with their locked crappy ecosystem, especially in the open source world, where people don't really like or trust that kind of locked environment mindset
What they are doing is a much better strategy to make themselves known wider on the short term and succeed on the long run.
Honestly, you are the only one here whining about it. And I'm not even a hardcore open-source advocate, I am a pragmatic and having the business succeed will always get my preference over dogmatism. Even then, I disagree with your view (which is a little simplistic).

[Shadywack]

My view is "hostile" towards idiocy and zealotry.

For instance, I like what Red Hat does, I hate what Rocky, Alma and the rest of the leaches do.

I like what Ubuntu does.

I like what Manjaro does.

I like COSMIC but I don't like it when adults are doing everything in their power to sabotage the business they are trying to run in the name of some ideology.

I hate what Manjaro does, between their impropriety, security issues, and lies about donation funds.

I use to like what Redhat did, until the IBM acquisition.

I also hate a few things that Canonical does, like selling personal info and keeping the Snap server hosting code proprietary.

Since you like those things, and the inane complaining you do, you seem to take real issue with FOSS concepts but like business concepts. You'd feel at home on a Windows forum instead of a Linux one.

[Quackdoc]

I think i changed my mind

rip xD

[Blisterexe]

In case you haven't realized it yet, for many people, open source, specifically GPL related software, is a religion, in so far that it has all the hallmarks of an organized religion.

Like any religion you have a holy text that is not to be questioned in the GPL, you have a prophet that brings forth the holy text in Stallman, and you have a Messianic figure that fulfills the promises of the GPL in Torvalds.

Like like any good religion, it;s adherents react with anger and hostility when you point out the absurdity of their beliefs.

The more vitriol a person responds with the more I know that that they realize I am right and it angers them that they can not prove that they do not believe in nonsense.

I think i changed my mind

[varikonniemi]

LOL!

What prestigious school did you get your political science degree from?

We have wars because I think it makes little business sense to give COSMIC away to use with any computer?

That's why Russia attacked Ukraine, and Israel and various Arab entities have been fighting since before I was born?

And I'm the psychopath?

LOL!

In every single thread about cosmic you come and completely unprovokedy start spewing your anti-GPL propaganda, berating the cosmic devs with various insults. On a open source/gpl forum. That's psychopathic. As is the idea that one should extract the maximum amount of money from other people without caring for the common good, instead of just being glad to be able to work and receive a good salary when people respect your work and buy your product, instead of the chinese knockoff.