Proposal Seeks To Replace MySQL With MariaDB By Default For Ubuntu 25.04

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Proposal Seeks To Replace MySQL With MariaDB By Default For Ubuntu 25.04

Most Linux distributions have been defaulting to MariaDB as the default MySQL server for years. Ubuntu though has been a notable outlier still relying on Oracle MySQL for the default MySQL service. A proposal raised by an Ubuntu developer hopes to change that for Ubuntu 25.04 in the new year...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-25.04-Maybe-MariaDB

[AsciiWolf]

Finally.

[spicfoo]

Sometimes Canonical decisions are very puzzling and this is one of them. I wonder why they waited this long. For comparison, Fedora did this over 10 years ago and RHEL followed soon after. openSUSE and SUSE did this as well around the same time. If they are consistently conservative like Debian that's one one thing but they recently announced they are going to not use LTS kernels and instead ship more bleeding edge ones. So I don't follow the logic here.

[cen1]

I think masking mysql packages as actual mariadb packages was a terrible mistake by distros. They should have kept mysql and package mariadb separately, let the end user decide and stats would show true end user preference rather than masking it and pushing mariadb down our throats.. If I want to install mysql, give me mysql god da***!

Maybe someone can educate me, but MySQL development seems to still be strong under Oracle and mariadb was not the killer replacement everyone wanted us to believe it is. Oracle=bad is not a good reason to base decisions on.

[edwaleni]

Since MariaDB laid off a third of the company last year and wrote off several million, I assume they need all of the help they can get.

[AHSauge]

I think masking mysql packages as actual mariadb packages was a terrible mistake by distros. They should have kept mysql and package mariadb separately, let the end user decide and stats would show true end user preference rather than masking it and pushing mariadb down our throats.. If I want to install mysql, give me mysql god da***!

Maybe someone can educate me, but MySQL development seems to still be strong under Oracle and mariadb was not the killer replacement everyone wanted us to believe it is. Oracle=bad is not a good reason to base decisions on.

If you read the message in the mailing list, it's pretty much a no-brainer. Secret development, zero transparency, features being held back and large code dumps into git. MySQL is open-source in name only. Some distros such as Debian don't even ship MySQL at this point. There's no reason to run MySQL at this point.

[d3coder]

If you read the message in the mailing list, it's pretty much a no-brainer. Secret development, zero transparency, features being held back and large code dumps into git. MySQL is open-source in name only. Some distros such as Debian don't even ship MySQL at this point. There's no reason to run MySQL at this point.

MySQL is a Free Software under GPLv2 license. Saying that it's open-source only in the name is a lie.
You are free to contribute to MySQL, they accept patches. The commit history is visible to everyone, they are not squashed.

[uid313]

I would like to see MySQL and/or MariaDB packaged on the Snap store.

[cen1]

Since MariaDB laid off a third of the company last year and wrote off several million, I assume they need all of the help they can get.

perhaps we'll be replacing mariadb with mysql again in 10 years if things continue this way..

[CommunityMember]

There was a rumor floating around that suggested that Oracle had a joint marketing arrangement with Canonical (that is a business euphemism for Oracle sending money) to keep MySQL the default (probably to drive future commercial support contracts to Oracle). If that business arrangement is still in force this proposal is likely DOA (at a much higher level in the organization than an individual developer).