Fedora 42 On 64-bit ARM Might Make It Seamless To Run x86/x86_64 Programs

[alexenv]

Maybe Fedora can get VIA to fix that crappy VL805 USB controller under Linux. How many firmware updates since the Pi4 came out.?

You probably have some early revision of the Pi 4 which was really borked and nobody cares about anymore. This is all RPi's fault.

VIA has nothing to do with it. That controller works fine literally anywhere else.

[ahrs]

This is great. Not many people want to mess around with installing FEX on their distro.

If you don't want to mess around then you probably shouldn't have rushed out to buy an ARM laptop. This is a good change proposal but people dealing with these pain-points brought it on themselves. They could have bought a nice x86_64 machine with fantastic software compatibility stretching back years.

[entropicdrifter]

If you don't want to mess around then you probably shouldn't have rushed out to buy an ARM laptop. This is a good change proposal but people dealing with these pain-points brought it on themselves. They could have bought a nice x86_64 machine with fantastic software compatibility stretching back years.

I thought it was clear the goal here is the other way around: Make it so that people can rush out and buy an ARM laptop and it won't matter that they didn't think it through. We're finally getting to a place where Linux has debatably better game compatibility than Windows. Why not do the same on ARM?

[Quackdoc]

why fex and not box?

EDIT: IMO Box would be better since it could also be ported to riscv easily as it's getting nice support now, let alone box perf being better

[raystriker]

If you don't want to mess around then you probably shouldn't have rushed out to buy an ARM laptop. This is a good change proposal but people dealing with these pain-points brought it on themselves. They could have bought a nice x86_64 machine with fantastic software compatibility stretching back years.

You're acting as if there aren't a few hundred million ARM SBCs in the world that could take advantage of FEX being integrated as a part of the distro experience...

And yeah, I do have an M1 MBP running Asahi as a side-laptop. It's pretty good already as a dev laptop you can just throw around vs lugging around a desktop-replacement main laptop (in my case).

With FEX integrated in Fedora, it makes ALL the more sense to ditch the turd that is Mac OS and Asahi your Mac.

[edwaleni]

You probably have some early revision of the Pi 4 which was really borked and nobody cares about anymore. This is all RPi's fault.

VIA has nothing to do with it. That controller works fine literally anywhere else.

I have some mini-PC's where even after the firmware updates they still wont work with an active AMD IOMMU and Linux.

[edxposed]

How come Fedora's lawyers didn't question the legal risks involved?

[muncrief]

Well, while the emulation of x86* programs incur a significant performance penalty, this will make running Linux easier for the type of common users, most who use Windows and to a lesser degree macOS, we are trying to attract.

And I'm for anything that might forward the day of the Linux Desktop.

There's little stopping it now other than deciding upon a default initial theme, and the agreement to finally implement the Linux standard base and a common package format.

So that if Linux stops shooting itself in the foot, and coordinates our vast infrastructure while maintaining its diversity, in 10 or 15 years users might not even know what Windows or macOS were.

[spicfoo]

How come Fedora's lawyers didn't question the legal risks involved?

Fedora already includes several emulators and they are under a free and open source license. This is no different from Qemu from a legal standpoint.

[NotMine999]

So that if Linux stops shooting itself in the foot, and coordinates our vast infrastructure while maintaining its diversity, in 10 or 15 years users might not even know what Windows or macOS were.

Yes they will know what it was. They will see it inside a glass case (to keep the dust off and the 0-day threats away) in some old funky museum for ancient, outdated computer technologies.