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  • spicfoo
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    Yes, it does mean something very different.

    I was informed of this in one of the wasteland threads common in Phoronix but I am not from your country and it has zero negative meaning in mine. It just means clean and it's been my nick all my life because I take pride in being well organized and my clothes. I am not going to change it now because people in one country misused it. It's very similar to how Swastikas are very common in East Asia and a religious symbol. Just because Nazi Hakenkreuz is similar (except for the change in angles) to some variants used in East Asia and often mistakenly called the Swastika in US doesn't mean everyone else in East Asia has to drop it.

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  • sophisticles
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    Thus has been discussed here before extensively, the word spic means to clean:

    (ethnic slur) offensive term for persons of Latin American descent


    There is also a product called spic and span:



    What happened was back in the 50's when people from Central and South America started immigrating to the United States on large numbers many of them ended up as house keepers and in various service industries as cleaning people.

    Since they would clean for a living and since many didn't speak English that well, and it was common for them to say "I don't speak good English" and because of the way people from Central and South America tend to pronounce "speak" as "spic", the word became used as a slur against people originating on those countries.

    But just because the word has been misused, doesn't mean that it is inherently "bad" or should be banned.

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  • sophisticles
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    Because i don't feel like going back and forth with 3 or 4 people that basically made the same silly anti-Windows Server comment, this is straight from the README.md:

    CBL-Mariner is an internal Linux distribution for Microsoft’s cloud infrastructure and edge products and services. CBL-Mariner is designed to provide a consistent platform for these devices and services and will enhance Microsoft’s ability to stay current on Linux updates.
    Mariner is not meant to replace Server, it is meant to compete in a different market segment and to extract as much revenue as possible from that segment.

    The reality is that Microsoft, in addition to selling software and hardware, also sells services and they will sell support contracts to support any OS you are running.

    For instance, let's assume you have 100 Windows Workstations, a couple of Windows DNS servers, a couple of Linux DB servers, some Linux switches, 2 Unix firewalls, and some Linux web servers, Microsoft will sell you a support contract for all those systems and some companies choose to do that in the interest of having a simplified support reconstruct.

    If anyone is interested in downloading an ISO of Mariner, here is the direct link:

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  • HEL88
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    Originally posted by Volta View Post

    I don't think so. People's aren't paying for quality. They're paying, because they're familiar with it.
    Just go to the posts here about display servers. And you can read that people are surprised how nothing for a week or two crashes and they are happy about it like children.

    Quality LOL

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  • HEL88
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    Originally posted by mxan View Post
    Kinda funny that even Microsoft doesn't believe in Windows Server
    Azure stands on Windows and uses Hyper-V. So linux is dependent on Widnows.

    Microsoft had its Unix and was making money on it when you weren't even born yet. And Xenix was at one time the most popular Unix.



    So and trusts Windows Server and makes money on unix-like like in the 80s.

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  • byteabit
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    Originally posted by mxan View Post
    Kinda funny that even Microsoft doesn't believe in Windows Server
    I was going to say the same thing. Funny how some people dunk on Linux and why Windows is more secure and such. And then even Microsoft uses Linux. xD Man, in what world we live today, nobody would believe me this 15 years ago.

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  • Volta
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Microsoft believes that they can offer a good product with Windows Server and many customers chose that product so they make money from it, else they wouldn't develop it.
    I don't think so. People's aren't paying for quality. They're paying, because they're familiar with it.

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  • spicfoo
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    I read the code comments.

    /* For Mariner 2, we are HARDCODING coredump compression to use LZ4 because Azure Watson can't handle ZSTD */​

    That's why. It's nothing too technical other than some of their systems don't do Zstd. Still, it'd be nice if coredump compression could be set in a config file instead of in a meson config file at build time or based on what it detects is installed. I can see why they haven't bothered doing that. It's sort of an irrelevant setting if you're using a file system that supports compression or are utilizing DeviceMapper. It's the same reason why I have makepkg set to uncompressed. The file system handles the compression.
    Yep. They should just make it a config option.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by spicfoo View Post

    Microsoft has several core contributors from all through the Linux stack including the Linux kernel and Systemd. So if they want to submit the changes as a PR upstream and get it merged, they certainly have resources to do that these days.
    I read the code comments.

    /* For Mariner 2, we are HARDCODING coredump compression to use LZ4 because Azure Watson can't handle ZSTD */​

    That's why. It's nothing too technical other than some of their systems don't do Zstd. Still, it'd be nice if coredump compression could be set in a config file instead of in a meson config file at build time or based on what it detects is installed. I can see why they haven't bothered doing that. It's sort of an irrelevant setting if you're using a file system that supports compression or are utilizing DeviceMapper. It's the same reason why I have makepkg set to uncompressed. The file system handles the compression.

    Are you aware that the first four letters of your name is a racist term in my country? Does it mean something different where you're from?
    Last edited by skeevy420; 10 April 2024, 08:49 AM.

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  • spicfoo
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    It makes me wish that systemd actual would pick up this change or add a way to set the compressor and compressor level when applicable.
    Microsoft has several core contributors from all through the Linux stack including the Linux kernel and Systemd. So if they want to submit the changes as a PR upstream and get it merged, they certainly have resources to do that these days.

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