Raspberry Pi OS Now Based On Debian 12 "Bookworm" + Wayland

[Mateus Felipe]

Out of curiosity, how can you have no monitors or TVs? You just unplug the HDMI cable from another device and plug it into the Raspberry Pi.

Sure, I could do it if I had another device connected to a monitor or TV through HDMI. As I said, I have no TV or monitor, at all.

I have only a phone and a MacBook for work, and both have embedded monitors.

[pracedru]

Yes. It's quite easy to set up.

# loginctl attach seat-2 /sys/devices/pcisomething/something/drm/card1 /sys/devices/<path-to-mouse> /sys/devices/<path-to-kbd>

I had no idea it was even possible. That is a really nice feature, albeit a bit of a niche.
I am sure it will be fixed in time for when the various DE's remove the X11 session.

[kurkosdr]

BTW one thing worth mentioning is that Raspberry PI 3 and older devices won't run Wayland but X11 instead:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-5-compatible-os-bookworm-officially-released

As usual, Raspberry Pi 3 users are getting the shaft.

[Etherman]

So two different users logging in simultaniously on the same machine each using a GPU?

Yes. It's quite easy to set up.

# loginctl attach seat-2 /sys/devices/pcisomething/something/drm/card1 /sys/devices/<path-to-mouse> /sys/devices/<path-to-kbd>

[pracedru]

It probably does but it simply doesn't work for my setup with dual GPUs and dual users.

So two different users logging in simultaniously on the same machine each using a GPU?

[Istanbull]

Wow, wayland fanboys sure are defensive, preemptively attacking because they expect us to attack them. Nothing wrong with using your little monolith if-one-thing-comes-down-the-whole-thing-comes-down compositor, take a deep breath and relax.

[Etherman]

I've been using Gnome Wayland session for a year and in my opinion it outperforms X11.

It probably does but it simply doesn't work for my setup with dual GPUs and dual users.

[pracedru]

I've been trying for a couple of years and I still haven't got Wayland working on my system in a sane way.
Last try was Monday evening.
I can run Wayland on seat-2 with crap performance if I run it under X11 🙃

I've been using Gnome Wayland session for a year and in my opinion it outperforms X11.

[Beryesa]

Do you know anything about the situation with those small weird gpio-mounted displays under wayland? Afaik they do xorg hackery to get anything working, I wonder if they'll somehow support Wayland later on.

[elatllat]

The 5 have a passive cooling option yet?