openSUSE Tumbleweed Adds systemd-boot Support

[drake23]

sd-boot doesn't use /boot partition. Kernel (with initrd) is copied to ESP and booted directly. Initrd then asks the user for the password and decrypts the LUKS partition.

Thanks, so it can't do what GRUB currently can. Hoping this gap will be closed so feature parity is reached and it is really a valid choice

[user1]

Clearly seemed to be a joke to me, though not a particularly funny one.

Even if it was really a joke, it's not a clear one because in the Linux world virtually anything can be both loved or hated by different users.

[dremon_nl]

No, the open suse setup is actually with encrypted /boot, so grub decrypts /boot BEFORE initramfs gets loaded. Hence my question if systemd boot works with that kind of setup.

sd-boot doesn't use /boot partition. Kernel (with initrd) is copied to ESP and booted directly. Initrd then asks the user for the password and decrypts the LUKS partition.

[J.King]

Great news! I've tried switching my installation of TW to systemd-boot a just a few weeks ago, but it was so fiddly I reverted back soon after. I've been using systemd-boot on my Gentoo box for years now, and I find the overall experience with it much more pleasant that GRUB.

Hear, hear. I've been using systemd-boot on my Arch desktop for a few months now, and it's like night and day. Easy to use, easy to configure. The bootloader may be a minuscule part of the system, but it's a very visible part, and GRUB comes off as very creaky.

[drake23]

It's only a boot manager... The only things that might not be working (yet) are ones explicitly dependant on grub's scripts (they are few and with the bootloader specs, that grub supports too, adding sdboot support actually means supporting grub too, no duplicated work). Decryption happens in initramfs so it will work without doing anything special.

No, the open suse setup is actually with encrypted /boot, so grub decrypts /boot BEFORE initramfs gets loaded. Hence my question if systemd boot works with that kind of setup.

[User42]

So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB

Certainly different people... And you are citing a person who can't distinguish adding and removing a feature. I am not sure it is that common to find people that confused.

[archkde]

So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.

Systemd-boot is pretty good, but some people just complain whenever they read the word "systemd".

[skeevy420]

So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.

Does that help?

[yump]

So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.

Clearly seemed to be a joke to me, though not a particularly funny one.

My feelings about systemd are mostly positive, but Linux communities do entirely too much circlejerking about people who are reluctant to jump onto this year's new hotness, IMO.

[user1]

So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.

I was surprise as well. Considering how brittle Grub can be at times, I would love to see a more robust alternative being more widely adopted.