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  • #61
    If this is Gnome only I see no issue. Worst case people will drop Gnome itself, which instead would be positive in allowing for desktop environment and toolkit diversity.

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    • #62
      Never really used any of those bloated desktop GUIs (eg. Gnome, KDE, ...) and I do not use or particularly like Wayland.

      X11/dwm and/or a terminal are all I need.

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      • #63
        I don't think I've ever seen so many likes in a Phoronix comment section.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by andresdju View Post

          Let avis socialize, it has been respectful.
          Avis may be annoying for sure, but sometimes that annoyance can be absolutely entertaining.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
            I don't think I've ever seen so many likes in a Phoronix comment section.
            I wonder if Phoronix ever had a 'Dislike' feature? And if so, where did it go? get lost in some update along the digital highway of life?

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            • #66
              If there was a "Dislike" button, I would post "I love X11, Oracle, IBM, OpenGL, and java".
              And "Nvidia" too.
              Last edited by ClosedSource; 20 September 2023, 02:45 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by C8292 View Post

                It's for sure revelant for you to take the time to come here and spread FUD and hate.

                Fedora is awesome. It's my daily driver. For me and for my 150 student classes.

                Fedora Bodhi is an awesome quality assurance process that most distros don't have.

                Fedora has been pushing things forward for years and thankfully in a very smooth tech combination.

                I'm thankful for it and replying to you from my kinoite Wayland session 😘
                Right.
                Fedora has made you think they pushed things forward. Red Hat are good at influencing people into thinking their stuff is good, but they've been holding back Linux desktop for years. I really wish there was a distribution not using a single piece of software designed by Red Hat. It would probably actually push things forward.

                I'm also using Wayland, that was not the point.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Mez' View Post
                  I really wish there was a distribution not using a single piece of software designed by Red Hat. It would probably actually push things forward
                  That not in fact possible and use the Linux kernel. Remember sections of the Linux kernel was designed by RedHat developers so there are pieces of software designed by Redhat developers inside the Linux kernel in fact in core parts of the kernel

                  Yes the BSD you do find different bits that were in fact made by Redhat Developers.

                  What you have said you want to see would be one hell of a challenge to get something Linux competitive..

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Mez' View Post
                    Right.
                    but they've been holding back Linux desktop for years
                    such as or how?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mez' View Post
                      Right.
                      Fedora has made you think they pushed things forward. Red Hat are good at influencing people into thinking their stuff is good, but they've been holding back Linux desktop for years. I really wish there was a distribution not using a single piece of software designed by Red Hat. It would probably actually push things forward.

                      I'm also using Wayland, that was not the point.
                      This is the cringest comment from a Linux fan I've seen in 25 years. It's not just wrong, it looks like as it it was made in an alternative universe entirely.

                      RedHat has given us:
                      • A stable distribution you can run up to 12 years while maintaining the same software stack and kernel drivers
                      • A hassle free power audio system, PulseAudio and then PipeWire (ALSA with dmix was a hell to set up, esound/artsd never really worked correctly)
                      • systemd (Luddites hate it but it's allowed to speed up the boot process by a factor of 10 or more, it simplified and removed the need for pages long fragile bash scripts, it streamlined system configuration)
                      • The company has maintained and contributed to the Gnome software stack and related libraries, the Linux kernel, the Xorg server, Wayland we are discussing now and many others
                      • A ton of enterprise Linux features including KVM, docker, flatpack, etc. etc.
                      Without RedHat Linux would have been taken back by at least a decade or two.

                      Fedora may look like it's an experimental distro except I've been running it without major issues since version 1.0. I only skipped a couple of releases when systemd was first introduced: it was really rough but the company needed to break it in.

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