Ubuntu 23.10 Restores ZFS File-System Support In Its Installer

[danboid]

It'd be great to see ZFS finally make it into the Ubuntu Server installer but I just tried the latest US Mantic test iso and I couldn't see any ZFS options yet.

It would need to offer more pool options than the desktop installer (mainly RAIDZ and RAIDZ2) for it to be worthwhile. Then they just need to ditch snap...

[mrtruxton]

I noticed that OpenZFS 2.2-rc4 brings compatibility for Intel QuickAssist Technology 1.7 (QAT 1.7)
The cards seem to go for less than a thousand. It could be a great addon to things like our backup servers.
But i wonder how complex is it to use this card with ZFS. Does it work out of the box on Ubuntu or do you have to recompile the entire thing.

[mrtruxton]

I am happy to see that Canonical still seems to be committed to being able to run ZFS under linux.
I really hope that OpenZFS 2.2 makes it in time for Ubuntu 24.04
We run a lot of servers with container services and OpenZFS comes with a lot of desirable features for those types of workloads.
( IDMAPPED mounts in the user name-space, OverlayFS support, and Linux namespace delegation ).
This will significantly increase the performance of container loads on top of ZFS. ( especially for container images with a lot of layers ).

[jackiebrown]

It's basic knowledge that df -h doesn't report accurate readings on Btrfs. You cannot seriously claim to be a system admin running Btrfs disks if you don't know that. Don't blame the fs when you have zero idea of what you are doing yourself.

I was going to post the same thing.
btrfs filesystem usage -T

[skeevy420]

Canonical is based in the UK which is not in BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa)

I got Canonical mixed up with their Funder and Founder who is from South Africa. Honest Mistake.

[fallingcats]

You just made that comment in a thread about a Linux distribution from a BRICS nation that's both implementing ZFS and working on an immutable version of their distribution. Then again, you said "good immutable distro" and "good" does not describe any existing immutable distribution that isn't DIY like NixOS so that's a trick question. My answer implies that Ubuntu Core is a good distribution and I don't even agree with that. Immutable and stuck with Snaps? Eww. Gross.

If you really want to tighten down that Anti-American tin foil hat, OpenZFS is funded by the US Department of Energy and the National Nuclear Security Administration while being worked on in an American government funded laboratory, the LLNL, that was originally started to ensure America wasn't technologically surpassed by the Soviet Union and other Communists. OpenZFS is as AmeriKKKa as it gets. Started by a Capitalist Company and funded via Militaristic Socialism.

Canonical is based in the UK which is not in BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa)

[timofonic]

I would argue that your examples only exist because of extreme stubbornness! Those achievements would only be possible if pathologically stubborn people had not pushed this forward with a borderline fanaticism (specifically the battle testing).

Just look at the recent bcachefs debacle. If the dev (Kent) was not vastly more stubborn than I was, this would never have even made it into linux-next. I would say 90% of people would have given up far earlier.

Stubbornness is the key to success! Stubbornnix!

[zexelon]

Linux got where it is after:

* 30 years of development
* an inifinte number of man hours
* an infinite amount of money poured on it
* infinite battle tests on every hardware and software condition

Stubbornness is not a replacement for this all.

I would argue that your examples only exist because of extreme stubbornness! Those achievements would only be possible if pathologically stubborn people had not pushed this forward with a borderline fanaticism (specifically the battle testing).

Just look at the recent bcachefs debacle. If the dev (Kent) was not vastly more stubborn than I was, this would never have even made it into linux-next. I would say 90% of people would have given up far earlier.

[skeevy420]

Why not a community effort, non Amerika based to create a good immutable distro that uses ZFS and doesn't care about shitty Oracle? Actually we have NixOS... but that's a different beast

You just made that comment in a thread about a Linux distribution from a BRICS nation that's both implementing ZFS and working on an immutable version of their distribution. Then again, you said "good immutable distro" and "good" does not describe any existing immutable distribution that isn't DIY like NixOS so that's a trick question. My answer implies that Ubuntu Core is a good distribution and I don't even agree with that. Immutable and stuck with Snaps? Eww. Gross.

If you really want to tighten down that Anti-American tin foil hat, OpenZFS is funded by the US Department of Energy and the National Nuclear Security Administration while being worked on in an American government funded laboratory, the LLNL, that was originally started to ensure America wasn't technologically surpassed by the Soviet Union and other Communists. OpenZFS is as AmeriKKKa as it gets. Started by a Capitalist Company and funded via Militaristic Socialism.

[cynic]

Why not?

You never should underestimate the stubbornness of a software engineer.

Linux achieved success with just the creation of an humble UNIX kernel clone.

Also, Kent worked at storage divisions of big corpos such as Google. I'm sure the so much crap saw in their infrastructures motivated him to start the insane task of making a new and modern filesystem for Linux.

Anyway, sorry for the offtopic...

Linux got where it is after:

* 30 years of development
* an inifinte number of man hours
* an infinite amount of money poured on it
* infinite battle tests on every hardware and software condition

Stubbornness is not a replacement for this all.