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  • novideo
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    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

    Linux was never a "one man hobby", read up on the GNU Project and how what we call Linux came into being today:
    I never said anything about GNU, I said Linux, which was some random hobby project: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os....m/SwRavCzVE7gJ

    Hello everybody out there using minix -

    I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
    professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
    since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
    things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
    (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
    among other things).

    I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work.
    This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and
    I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions
    are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)

    Linus ([email protected])

    PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs.
    It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
    will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(.

    But GNU too was being developed when BSD was already established, but the AT&T vs BSD lawsuit and the GPL helped GNU surpass BSD.

    Stallman has been very honest about what he is, the GPL was the first copyleft license because he was a leftists, it was not about rights, it was about controlling his fellow man, much like all leftists try to do.

    A truly free license would say "Here's the source code, do whatever you want with it", that's real freedom.

    The GPL is about putting restrictions on what you can do with the software.

    It's the opposite of free.
    Ok, but in your previous posts you showed less hostility not only to MIT/BSD, but to full proprietary software than to the GPL, which doesn't give you freedom at all

    I also think it's absurd for these people to release COSMIC for general availability, they should make it an exclusive for the customers, as a value added.
    And lots of other posts in these forums about how much you hate foss. So can you explain how you're fine with having no freedom at all, but hate the GPL which still gives you some?

    And what does FOSS have to do with left-right politics???

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  • ppcorp
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    Originally posted by Barley9432 View Post
    So exactly what CentOS Stream is doing, but instead Stream actually contributes to upstream instead of being leeches feeding of RedHat and giving nothing in return.

    Hopefully these leech rebuilds like Alma, Rocky, Oracle all shutdown. They have been taking advantage of the good will of open source for far too long.
    You do realize that Red Hat is the bad guy here, right? Red Hat has been leeching off the community to begin with. If it wasn't for open source to begin with, there would be no Red Hat

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  • Mez'
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    Good.
    The less importance and credibility Red Hat gets in the wider Linux actual community (not the fake communities RH create for influenceable people), the best it is for users in general.

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  • mSparks
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    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

    Linux was never a "one man hobby", read up on the GNU Project and how what we call Linux came into being today:







    Make no mistake, the GPL is not about freedom, far from it, it's about control.

    Stallman has been very honest about what he is, the GPL was the first copyleft license because he was a leftists, it was not about rights, it was about controlling his fellow man, much like all leftists try to do.

    A truly free license would say "Here's the source code, do whatever you want with it", that's real freedom.

    The GPL is about putting restrictions on what you can do with the software.

    It's the opposite of free.
    gpl puts absolutely NO restrictions on what you can do with the software.

    It manages (very effectively) how much you can infringe on the authors absolute right to exclusive distribution of their work.

    What you seem to be thinking of is Sonys build of openBSD. If you really think the PS5 has more freedom than any Linux distribution then I want some of what you've been smoking.

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  • sophisticles
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    Originally posted by novideo View Post
    Hating the GPL more than proprietary licenses that give you less rights is bizarre...if GPL really hurt the ecosystem, how did Linux go from one man hobby project to dominating the world, except the desktop, and BSD went from widely adopted to dominated by GNU+Linux?
    Linux was never a "one man hobby", read up on the GNU Project and how what we call Linux came into being today:







    Make no mistake, the GPL is not about freedom, far from it, it's about control.

    Stallman has been very honest about what he is, the GPL was the first copyleft license because he was a leftists, it was not about rights, it was about controlling his fellow man, much like all leftists try to do.

    A truly free license would say "Here's the source code, do whatever you want with it", that's real freedom.

    The GPL is about putting restrictions on what you can do with the software.

    It's the opposite of free.

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  • sophisticles
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    Originally posted by lejeczek View Post

    Fuck me if I ever touch "made"-in China Linux (even if only partly made).
    Imagine going to a customer, a business, anybody (everywhere but in China of course), who is only amateur-level aware of what Chinese do to software -- and yes I've seen those lamenting: but! it's the government and not all the people. Have you seen recent, fresh out Chinese students manifest that non-government China?... so spare me -- and telling them that yes!... you recommend​ Chinese OS/software to run their bank or school.
    I agree, I would never use any OS that was made in China, or Russia for that matter.

    Hell, I wouldn't trust most OSes not made in the U.S. or one of the strategic partners, like England, France, Germany, counties like that.

    I trust MX Linux because it's made in Greece, but if I thought there was anything shady, that would be the end of that.
    Last edited by sophisticles; 19 July 2023, 12:11 PM.

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  • fadedmaple
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    Originally posted by fadedmaple View Post

    How ignorant, openkylin is desktop focused and doesn't even have a server version.
    And almost all local Chinese RHEL replacements use yum instead of apt!
    Basically, Alibaba, Tencent, Huawei all have their own "Amazon Linux" which is not compatible with RHEL.

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  • fadedmaple
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    Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post
    In the end, all of this uncertainty around RHEL will undoubtedly boost the adoption of Ubuntu LTS in enterprises, especially in non-US[A] territories.

    And with China's openKylin essentially depending upon Ubuntu as its foundation, Canonical has indeed a very bright future ahead...
    How ignorant, openkylin is desktop focused and doesn't even have a server version.
    And almost all local Chinese RHEL replacements use yum instead of apt!

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  • mSparks
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    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post

    so what?
    So now all those paying red hat to pirate other peoples work will have to file any and all bug reports themselves.
    Last edited by mSparks; 15 July 2023, 02:59 AM.

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  • fitzie
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    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post

    again even if that WAS the case in which I highly disagree with alma can be credited with expanding platform support which as I said, RHEL explicitly does not consider a leech. address that.
    that would change my mind. rhel says they support x86-64 arm64, ppc64le and IBM z. did alma add a major platform?

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