Fedora Workstation 40 Considering To Implement Privacy-Preserving Telemetry

[NotMine999]

I wonder when IBM, RedHat, and Fedora will stop shooting themselves in the foot with these stupid customer-offending changes?

"privacy preserving telemetry" is a classic oxymoron.

[jochendemuth]

Why didn't they use a friendlier, tamer word like "survey"?

Any survey I have met is inherently opt-in.

"privacy-conscious" "privacy preserving" is suggestive marketing bs that does not mean anything. Because it doesn't mean anything it can be interpreted totally to the makers content.

I expect that the first iteration is harmless and defensible and the next iteration will be less so. BTW. will new iterations be served via "dnf update" or only via "dnf upgrade"?

Will the iteration respect my opt-out choice? Or reset it just like all the other "privacy-conscious" corporations like to do?

[sophisticles]

really starting to run low on distros to recommend now.

I judge distros from the point of view of which one would i want to build a business around if i came into a lot of money, i.e. either buy the rights to or create a spin from and build some custom apps for.

And every single time, after trying nearly every distro you can name, I keep coming back to one: Open Suse Leap.

It is the only enterprise class distro I have found that just will not break no matter what I do to it; there is a really nice spin i have been using called Gecko Static with the Mate desktop and it is as good as it gets.

Every other distro you can name, Fedora, any Debian based variant including Ubuntu and derivatives, any Arch based distro including Manjaro has its shortcomings and break eventually.

The only other distro i found like this was Scientific Linux, and yes i know it was a RH clone and maybe it's possible that Rocky and Alma would also be as dependable, but frankly after everything that has happened with the RH saga, I don't think I would trust them.

[Volta]

screw them!

I've been a Fedora user since Core 6, but after all the RH BS and now this telemetry thing I'll move back to Debian.

I started with the first version of Fedora Core, switched to Kubuntu and Arch years later and looks like I'll end up with Debian. This telemetry BS is the first step to other spying crap.

[pereiraalex]

I think telemetry is good when its from the company/distro/desktop I like !

I think telemetry is bad when its from the company/distro/desktop I don't like !

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

The single most impactful thing they can collect telemetry on is what GNOME extensions are installed. Maybe they'll finally wake up and realize that a majority of their users have things like Dash to Dock or Dash to Panel installed (possibly along with others like something for system tray icons, desktop icons, etc.). That would be hugely valuable information to shape a better default desktop, while allowing them to continue to offer their current vision as an option. But the proposal doesn't mention anything about extensions, so they'll probably keep their head in the sand.

[Quackdoc]

I judge distros from the point of view of which one would i want to build a business around if i came into a lot of money, i.e. either buy the rights to or create a spin from and build some custom apps for.

And every single time, after trying nearly every distro you can name, I keep coming back to one: Open Suse Leap.

It is the only enterprise class distro I have found that just will not break no matter what I do to it; there is a really nice spin i have been using called Gecko Static with the Mate desktop and it is as good as it gets.

Every other distro you can name, Fedora, any Debian based variant including Ubuntu and derivatives, any Arch based distro including Manjaro has its shortcomings and break eventually.

The only other distro i found like this was Scientific Linux, and yes i know it was a RH clone and maybe it's possible that Rocky and Alma would also be as dependable, but frankly after everything that has happened with the RH saga, I don't think I would trust them.

openSuse is certainly one I have been meaning to look into, I had been more or less satisfied with nobara since it has a lot of good defaults on top of fedora, I personally still reccomend arch for people who want to really deep dive into linux like I did, but for everyone else I recommended nobara/fedora (and sometimes popos since I think S76 for all their short commings, is at least working on a "sellable product" which I can appreciate).

suse is for sure something I will be testing shortly

[tuxd3v]

I think its the beginning of something really bad..
They will start with this, this will evolve behind the scenes, and when we realize...we are in a north korean style regime..

What is the purpose of this?what's the point?
Of course its something really bad, it is mass spying on people..I am horrified by something like this.
You just think about it...why the hell they need to collect data from users???

And then they come with "ho no...don't worry, because we preserve your privacy"...really??What about not spying on people to start with?

[mirmirmir]

openSuse is certainly one I have been meaning to look into, I had been more or less satisfied with nobara since it has a lot of good defaults on top of fedora, I personally still reccomend arch for people who want to really deep dive into linux like I did, but for everyone else I recommended nobara/fedora (and sometimes popos since I think S76 for all their short commings, is at least working on a "sellable product" which I can appreciate).

suse is for sure something I will be testing shortly

I think s89 is making mistake like servo browser engine on desktop, all lot hype around it, just to be a deadware. Except a lot worse for scammy shill swarming the community, making bad decision for others.

I'm disappointed by their hardware quality and support. I'm skectical with their software for basically reinventing the rubber wheel. I guess they are better selling PC case with fancy sticker, not that I'm planning to buy their product.

[Sonadow]

If you really cared about privacy you would not 1) use the Internet (your web browser, specially if you're under Linux, is easily identifiable even if you always use Private Mode).

Finally! Someone who actually agrees with what i have been saying all these years!

so many privacy-tards think they are securing their privacy and safety when using Linux on the internet when the truth could not be further than that.

privacy is about not drawing attention to yourself and sticking out like a sore thumb. Which is what Linux utterly fails in.

if i were a CIA lackey going through hundreds of thousands of site access logs and i see this:
- 200000 Android visitors
- 100000 Windows 10/11 users
- 200000 iOS visitors
- 40000 macOS visitors
- 50 desktop Linux visitors

Who the hell is going to stand out like Times Square lit up at midnight?