Ubuntu Cinnamon Becomes An Official Flavor For Ubuntu 23.04

[ll1025]

yet Ubuntu still keeps Security riddled packages to gain users or lack there of them when most of APT users are more than likely going to Debian or Debian Sid. i would prefer security over old out dated packages, an ya wonder why Ubuntu aint the Number 1 Distro anymore, People have woken up.

If given the choice between software that has the absolute latest patches and software that works, I know which one I'm going to choose. I can't very well do much with a distro that has no connectivity and no keyboard / mouse support.

Yes-- I'm sure I could fix it with several hours of work over several days, but there's no guarantee the fix will survive the next kernel / dist upgrade and I'm too old for this crap.

[Duff~]

Cinnamon's workflow seems relatively similar to KDE. Wondering why you'd pick it when KDE has a much larger userbase, more developers, more testing, etc.

less bloat

[Anvil]

Because there's something incredibly embarassing in 2023 about installing the latest debian and not having....

• Bluetooth support (intel adapter)
• Wifi (intel adapter)
• working video (intel iGPU)

I've found it to be the case-- and I suspect others have as well-- that my patience for fixing stupid stuff like this has gotten less and less over time. This was fun when I was 22 and learning linux and linux was niche. It's not fun now.

EDIT: And I should say-- I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Ubuntu has these things working and Debian doesn't. I just don't really care anymore, I just want it to work.

yet Ubuntu still keeps Security riddled packages to gain users or lack there of them when most of APT users are more than likely going to Debian or Debian Sid. i would prefer security over old out dated packages, an ya wonder why Ubuntu aint the Number 1 Distro anymore, People have woken up.

[Daktyl198]

I ran Cinnamon Mint for many, many years, and I absolutely adore it. That being said, as somebody with a monitor refresh rate of 144hz, I *need* Wayland these days. The input lag on X11 is just too noticeable. Unfortunately, last I checked the Cinnamon Team has decided that they simply will not support Wayland, which means that aside from being useless on higher refresh rate displays, they are going to fork farther and farther away from Gnome who is focusing more and more on Wayland every day.

[ll1025]

lmfao , could ask the question, Why Does Ubuntu still exist when its security riddled with old out of date Packages, even Debian has more up to date Packages than ubuntu has

Because there's something incredibly embarassing in 2023 about installing the latest debian and not having....

• Bluetooth support (intel adapter)
• Wifi (intel adapter)
• working video (intel iGPU)

I've found it to be the case-- and I suspect others have as well-- that my patience for fixing stupid stuff like this has gotten less and less over time. This was fun when I was 22 and learning linux and linux was niche. It's not fun now.

EDIT: And I should say-- I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Ubuntu has these things working and Debian doesn't. I just don't really care anymore, I just want it to work.

[cl333r]

If you feel the threat for the Russian “Spiritual Bonds” on the Internet you can always return to the Cheburnet.

The new multi polar world has decided the US and UK (as world's top 2 terrorist states) need to go, which is what is happening, thankfully.

[xAlt7x]

You will never get out of your toxic bubble because you like it and are proud of it, like the Ukraine, which is why you deserve to be angry and stupid.

If you feel the threat for the Russian “Spiritual Bonds” on the Internet you can always return to the Cheburnet.

[cl333r]

Of course they made it official now to have one more distro where to spread their awful Snap abomination and to force it to not include Flatpak support by defaul.
Especially now when they are losing more and more user because of this shitty attitude.
I don't know why, but Canonical seems to me to have the same mentality as Russia, trying to force its way, ignoring the resistance and pushback, and with the huge loses, instead of backing down, they double down trying to find more idiots to push in the battle.

Are there more unofficial Ubuntu flavors?
Because with Canonical desperation I think those will become official too, just so they are able to control them also.

Anyway, if I never used this flavor before, I will definitely not use it it.
If I wanted to used Cinnamon, I would've done it on Linux Mint, non Canonical's garbage.

You will never get out of your toxic bubble because you like it and are proud of it, like the Ukraine, which is why you deserve to be angry and stupid.

[cl333r]

Smooth segfaults.

It's because Ubuntu segfaults are soft and pleasant.

[Magissia]

Lol my god, did some KDE dev kill your puppy or something?

Cinnamon isn't slow on the few hundred devices I deployed it on. I honestly like KDE but don't have the time to learn how the policy enforcement works there. Cinnamon won for me because I could re-use GNOME management knowledge.

If you tested cinnamon on mint, maybe the slowness was due to the Python component as they like using this language. These always felt sluggish on every flavors of mint.