Ubuntu Cinnamon Becomes An Official Flavor For Ubuntu 23.04

[richardm317]

Cinnamon's workflow seems relatively similar to KDE. Wondering why you'd pick it when KDE has a much larger userbase, more developers, more testing, etc.

Stability.

[mirmirmir]

Cinnamon's workflow seems relatively similar to KDE. Wondering why you'd pick it when KDE has a much larger userbase, more developers, more testing, etc.

I don't know why you hate cinnamon, but please don't insult it by saying it's similar to KDE. For starters, cinammon has sane options, while kde put every unnecessary options like they don't even bother to put any logic into it.

And of course the obvious: stability, it's very important thing that kde users fail to appreciate, like maybe they don't work with it, just use desktop as a toy, even if that's the case, I can't understand why they can stand it, last time I use kde, I lost my 100+ hr game save. Like I just tried it once for a while, it already made huge damage. So, as a toy, it's not even suitable.

Larger userbase? I mean there's kwinft while kwin exists, there's olive project while kdenlive exists. kde community is not a welcoming community, especially when someone with bright mind make a voice. Kde users have the pride to defend their stupid decisions, so they repell every voice of reasons. And it happens even with their huge userbase. More people doesn't make it better, it's the quality of the people that makes the difference.

As for you, I know it's not something you want to hear, but to acknowledge one's mistake is a sign of grow as an individual. I hope you can stop being kde fan, because currently you, like every other kde fans, always trying to make every discussion about yourself.

[Paradigm Shifter]

I used Ubuntu Cinnamon briefly when 22.04 landed (about a week before Mint 21 arrived) just to see what it was like.

It was an uglier, less polished Mint.

As such, I just waited for Mint 21.

Of course, with the changes made in Mint 21.1... (I loathe that new cursor theme!)

[Magissia]

So why does Mint need to exist still? Ubuntu has it all, better support, and if the spin wasn't official enough now there's official Cinnamon

Because Mint doesn't need snap to have up to date Firefox, doesn't force Wayland which isn't ready to replace X11 due to missing feature parity (first and third party) while retaining ppa access?

Same question could be asked about Ubuntu outside of the server world. Mint currently provide a desktop experience Ubuntu cannot provide.

[Magissia]

I don't know why, but Canonical seems to me to have the same mentality as Russia, trying to force its way, ignoring the resistance and pushback, and with the huge loses, instead of backing down, they double down trying to find more idiots to push in the battle.

So, Canonical is acting like a governement and USA never faced pushback in countries where they "brought peace and freedom"? Why trying to force geopolitical in a Linux forum ignoring resistance and pushback from users preferring to keep countries politics elsewhere?

[Magissia]

Cinnamon's workflow seems relatively similar to KDE. Wondering why you'd pick it when KDE has a much larger userbase, more developers, more testing, etc.

You can't use GNOME management tools on KDE, but they mostly work on Cinnamon.

[partcyborg]

I don't know why you hate cinnamon, but please don't insult it by saying it's similar to KDE. For starters, cinammon has sane options, while kde put every unnecessary options like they don't even bother to put any logic into it.

And of course the obvious: stability, it's very important thing that kde users fail to appreciate, like maybe they don't work with it, just use desktop as a toy, even if that's the case, I can't understand why they can stand it, last time I use kde, I lost my 100+ hr game save. Like I just tried it once for a while, it already made huge damage. So, as a toy, it's not even suitable.

Larger userbase? I mean there's kwinft while kwin exists, there's olive project while kdenlive exists. kde community is not a welcoming community, especially when someone with bright mind make a voice. Kde users have the pride to defend their stupid decisions, so they repell every voice of reasons. And it happens even with their huge userbase. More people doesn't make it better, it's the quality of the people that makes the difference.

As for you, I know it's not something you want to hear, but to acknowledge one's mistake is a sign of grow as an individual. I hope you can stop being kde fan, because currently you, like every other kde fans, always trying to make every discussion about yourself.

Lol my god, did some KDE dev kill your puppy or something? It must be something like that, considering this post is full of ad hominem attacks and is completely lacking of concrete criticisms.

I used cinnamon for years before switching a few years ago as I was tired of how terribly slow cinnamon was. Every single thing I liked about cinnamon I found a better and/or faster version of in KDE. Not to mention significantly more functioning extensions and actual wayland support

[TemplarGR]

Who cares about Ubuntu? Seriously, one of the worst distros to use no matter your Linux knowledge level. Newcomer, amateur, average, power user, programmer, system administrator, doesn't matter there are always better options.

[jorgepl]

This feels like canonical trying to retake some of the community goodwill they've lost due to snaps.

It won't work...

[mercster]

Very cool. I was around some of the original GNOME devs when it was just getting off the ground... I remember running gnome-0.3 or something. It was just a tarball with GNOME midnight commander and gnome-panel. GNOME 2 was awesome. Back then GNOME was FAR better than KDE.

At some point the GNOME people decided to completely change the desktop around into something "conforming to scientific user interface guidelines" or something else goofy. They decided panel applets were a bad thing...? Who knows. Nowadays KDE is superior (for me, because I prefer a traditional desktop metaphor), but Cinnamon is a decent desktop as well. I'd probably run XFCE, MATE, or Cinnamon if I wasn't using KDE Plasma.