Since Ubuntu trys to kickout Flatpak more and more it is a wise decision to swap the base distro.
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my feelings are... if it can help get these core features into upstream debian, and then (also its derivatives). then that is probably unrealistic to expect, but a wish on my part. to make a stronger alternative to ubuntu
however otoh if they didnt go with debian at all, but had instead switched to another distro. then maybe could have been even better outcome
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Originally posted by user1 View Post
Even if Debian itself has some disadvantages, I don't think this really matters in case of Vanilla OS, because just like Fedora Silverblue and OpenSuse MicroOS, it's an immutable distro with a minimal package base, so Flatpak is used for most regular software. In case something is not available as Flatpak, users are expected to use Distrobox. So the real question is how well are they going to handle updates because they intend to use Debian Unstable as their base and ship the updates in a more stable manner, kinda what Manjaro does (I hope they're going to be wayy better at this than Manjaro).
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Originally posted by CochainComplex View PostSince Ubuntu trys to kickout Flatpak more and more it is a wise decision to swap the base distro.
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Originally posted by Estranged1906 View Post
That's a bit unfair. Flatpak is not being kicked out, they just want to create the same "experience" for all Official Flavours. You can still install Flatpak from the official repo, similar how you can install Snapd from the official repo on Fedora, without anyone crying that it has to be preinstalled in, say, the Fedora KDE Spin.
Flatpak is wanted more and more by users. Snapd not. Fedora never had it preinstalled nor does it seem that Fedora (or any spins) users are wanting it.
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Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post
How is it unfair? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu...pak-By-Default
Flatpak is wanted more and more by users. Snapd not. Fedora never had it preinstalled nor does it seem that Fedora (or any spins) users are wanting it.
What "more and more users" want is hard to say as there's no reliable data, and it's also irrelevant for Canonical. Snap has the downside that there's no third-party repos, Flatpak has the downside that you can't run system apps or rootful apps (e.g. VPN client). Both are not perfect.
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Originally posted by user1 View Post
Um, what?
Since when Flatpak is a Red Hat product? Even if its lead developer works for Red Hat, it doesn't mean it's a Red Hat product.
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Originally posted by Estranged1906 View Post
Like Fedora, GNOME, Wayland, and systemd, Flatpak is clearly pushed by Red Hat and a lot of the development is done by Red Hat employees. Even if the projects are technically independent.
The primary developers seem to be `smvc` and `mwleeds` by commit velocity, neither of which are associated with Red Hat. Furthermore, smvc is a prominent Debian developer.
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