Ubuntu Making Progress On The Lenovo ThinkPad X13s Arm Laptop Support

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  • deusexmachina
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 418

    #31
    Just work on Linux/Ryzen power management and fixing abhornet sleep... Then you can better compete with M1/M2s reasonably. It is a very basic and straight forward reason that Macbooks can sleep for a month and still work but no Linux laptop I've seen even lasts a week.

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    • mihau
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2018
      • 40

      #32
      Nice, but an X13s Gen2 is way overdue at this point Preferably with USB4 and real upstream drivers for everything. I'd also like to see one of these powered by coreboot, but seeing as the current gen chip isn't supported yet, it doesn't seem realistic. Plus they probably use some stupid FW verification scheme that would prevent modification anyway.

      I'm starting to think that my next laptop might be ARM based. That fanless enclosure and much more battery are great. And it helps that my primary use case is developing open source firmware that can be cross-compiled and doesn't need much performance to build. But I have my doubts about the firmware... I've been burned with horrible FW too many times to buy anything that I can't put my own firmware on. Perhaps a chromebook edition may come at some point. That would be my perfect laptop.

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      • deusexmachina
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 418

        #33
        Originally posted by mihau View Post
        Nice, but an X13s Gen2 is way overdue at this point
        Right, if these "Windows manufacturers" (well-deserved name) wouldn't stop spreading themselves so thin with distraction and clout, then they could build one good laptop per generation. How do they expect to compete with Apple? Support it for longer, get the latest stuff (zen4, USB4, OLED, ECC support that the CPUs already have anyway, 2x M.2, etc)!

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        • mdedetrich
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2019
          • 2537

          #34
          Considering the chip they are using, this is way too overpriced. You may as well pony up the extra and get a Mac with M1/M2 when Asahi Linux gets to shape rather than using a laptop that essentially has a phone SoC.

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          • mdedetrich
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2019
            • 2537

            #35
            Originally posted by coder View Post
            I was with you until this part. Qualcomm had stopped designing their own cores. They used to, but starting with the Snapdragon 835, they switched to using ARM's own IP.

            Apple, on the other hand, has poured $billions, first into acquiring PA Semi (2008) and then Intrinsity (2010), to design their SoC's fully in-house. Aside from their GPU IP, which is thought to be still largely derived from Imagination/PowerVR, pretty much everything else was designed by them. That's why, even on the same node, Apple has substantially out-performed every other ARM core and has done even better on perf/W.

            It's like bizarro world how many people just don't want to believe that Apple, a company with annual revenues over 100x of ARM, 20x AMD, 6x Intel, and 5x of Tesla, is capable of designing its own CPUs. Just because we look down our noses at Mac users and don't like Apple's walled garden doesn't mean they don't have some great tech.
            Yeah I cannot upvote this enough. I don't think people here have a clue how ahead in some areas Apple is compared to other companies and I would also suspect most people here don't have an Apple M1/M2. I have one as a work laptop and was quite shocked (in a positive way) how impressive the hardware is, especially when compared to Intel based Mac's.

            I mean their SoC's are so power efficient that they are still beating the competition with Apple's infamous "substandard" cooling solutions on their laptops (although I disagree with this statement because Apple just prioritizes noise over cooling, its just they can get away with it now)
            Last edited by mdedetrich; 21 February 2023, 09:16 AM.

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            • brucethemoose
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2021
              • 548

              #36
              Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post

              (although I disagree with this statement because Apple just prioritizes noise over cooling, its just they can get away with it now)
              Eh they could still aim for silence with a better thermal solution. Its just a cost cutting measure.

              But you arent wrong either. My G14 will run fanless... if I configure it that way. But its clocked very aggressively out of the box, which I find annoying in a laptop.

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