Originally posted by redgreen925
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There are devices that require firmware that use to work with Debian default disc because they were open source firmware.
So you need to put non-free/close source firmware there. Also if you go back in time to when the choice with Debian was made not to include closed source firmware on the default disc there were cases where hardware bricked. Yes scsi cards were particular bad for this. what happen was many different versions would take the same chipset and do the boards slightly different and load the wrong closed source firmware cause the card to have electrical fault and die.
Non-free installer hidden away because if you did not know what you were doing with it back in history you could be bricking the hardware not making the hardware functional.
Devices adding signed firmware support has been good on this way as it prevents loading the incorrect firmware into a device just because OS ID the card as X vendor version of Y card when in really it Z vendors version of Y card that is going to die from X vendors firmware.
Yes the above in from 2014 and its like the most recent case public case of vendor intentionally doing something to make clones/competitors hardware die.
redgreen925 rock and hard place. Allowing closed source vendor firmware or drivers that you cannot audit has a risk that it contains something designed to kill another vendors device yes this is not good for end users. Not allowing closed source vendor firmware or drivers means less devices will work but risk of very bad issues is less.
Debian choice here to keep user informed of what is going on is most likely the best solution. Debian old solution that you had to have knowledge about firmware to use the disc that had non free firmware made more sense in 1996-2004 when there was more cases of wrong load firmware kill card.
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