Raspberry Pi OS Updated With Desktop Improvements, NetworkManager, Picamera2

[luno]

For desktop usage, Ubuntu is the best choice.

if you use software with openvg backend it is pretty fast specially Pi with OpenVG support

[tildearrow]

For desktop usage, Ubuntu is the best choice.

For any purpose, Ubuntu is the worst choice (maybe not for server though).

Ubuntu nowadays is just a curtain to make Linux look bad with its messy APT (held broken packages and its ability to prompt wiping the entire system out (see udev incident)), Snap (slowdown) and Microsoft-favoring orientation.

Behind that curtain, there are better choices like openSUSE, Arch or Fedora.

[ATLief]

For any purpose, Ubuntu is the worst choice (maybe not for server though).

Ubuntu nowadays is just a curtain to make Linux look bad with its messy APT (held broken packages and its ability to prompt wiping the entire system out (see udev incident)), Snap (slowdown) and Microsoft-favoring orientation.

Behind that curtain, there are better choices like openSUSE, Arch or Fedora.

I can’t defend Ubuntu anymore, but Debian is great. The bloat with Snaps is all on Ubuntu and not present in Debian by default.

[gcomi1977]

For any purpose, Ubuntu is the worst choice (maybe not for server though).

Ubuntu nowadays is just a curtain to make Linux look bad with its messy APT (held broken packages and its ability to prompt wiping the entire system out (see udev incident)), Snap (slowdown) and Microsoft-favoring orientation.

Behind that curtain, there are better choices like openSUSE, Arch or Fedora.

in my personal opinion Debian is the best. both from the pratical point of view (the stable distribution is released every 2 years just like ubuntu lts, and of course APT on Debian is perfect, more in general is a better os, polish, no bloatware, no snap, best performance and useful tools like backports), and imho from the governance point of view, because Debian is owned by a no-profit, Debian has rules that make it functional to users avoiding most of the commercial logics,.
btw also fedora, arch and opensuse are great
ubuntu for me is simply unuseful, because I see it like debian + awful blotware + owned by commercial company, so i cannot find a reason to use it.

[MastaG]

I hope they put more effort in getting all of their features working in upstream linux.
So one would get everything working (GPU, audio wifi, bluetooth, gpio etc) without a single patch.

I mean come on, it's the most popular SBC out there.
They sold millions of units and still rely on a heavily patched (and outdated) popcornmix kernel.

[nist]

The official OS has full video hardware acceleration in video decoding (for supported formats, for istance h264 and h265 at 8, and also at 10 bit with the Debian 10 based OS - the last time I tried the latest OS doesn't unless using the previous usupported gpu driver), video player and official browser. Unless they decide to remove the video hardware acceleration completely to make things easier. In this case, all distros will be good for it.

[arQon]

I bought a PI400. Even overclocked, it is so slow I can't use it. Just typing into mouse pad it doesn't keep up with my typing. And trying to follow the mouse makes me nauseous. I don't know how anyone can use these for a desktop. I just stuck it in the bottom drawer, but I keep wondering why I haven't tossed it in the trash.

If you're using the "wrong" KMS driver, yeah, it's terrible. Even if you're using the right driver it's not great, but at least it doesn't look like a 1991 Walmart PC trying to run Windows.

Ubuntu 22.04 is usable as a desktop. It's a huge step down from a real PC, but it works well enough to be viable. Of course, you have to unfuck the snapped web browser first, but other than that it's "fine". By extension, Debian is obviously also fine, as is any other distro you feel like running.

Despite all the usual bullshit from the chronically insecure, only one choice of distro matters: either you're using Raspbian, which gives you a broken AF but performant video player, at the expense of a functional DE; or you're not, in which case video playback sucks but you can have a DE that doesn't.

[Beherit]

Good, NetworkManager is always the first package I setup on a new Pi install.

The first thing I setup is always to replace it with networkd, as in my experience networkd is faster and lighter on the resources.

[arQon]

I hope they put more effort in getting all of their features working in upstream linux.

Maybe you should take a look as to why those features aren't upstreamed first, otherwise you might end up blaming the wrong people...

[direc85]

I just installed Manjaro ARM last week, but there's nothing new I desperately need, so not switching back.

As a low-powered SBC, running a desktop Linux is a tiny feat itself. Although text editing seems light, it passes through the DE from the keyboard to the screen. The accelerated video performance may give the illusion of all-powerful device, whereas it really is not.

I use it as a tiny network manager (pun not intended) and a LAN "www server" in one specific case. I lost one SD card to InfluxDB however, I should come up with a solution there...

Edit: it = Raspberry Pi 3 model B