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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostWould it be too much to ask to have one Ubuntu comment section a month where everyone would STFU with how much they hate Snaps? We get it. For whatever reason y'all like Ubuntu but hate everything they do. Well, I don't actually get it...Like, are y'all aware that there is a thing called Linux Mint that is basically Ubuntu without Snaps? Why TF aren't y'all using that?
Rhetorically: What's up with all these people using distributions that do things in a different manner than what they'd like and then complaining about all the stuff they have to do to fix it to make it their own? Why won't they take a trip down distribution lane and find something that's more in line with their needs? And if they're not using Ubuntu, why all the hubris about something they're not even using?
Some things are simpliy triggering emotions. NVidia, Wayland, systemd, ....
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What about Canonical thought about going to NASDAQ and their some financial stats about support for Desktop? the Child was born or something went wrong(as usual in Desktop Market Share like in Browser Market Share or like in npmjs $$$ Market Share)
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Originally posted by Malsabku View PostThe development activity of snapd is much higher than that of flatpak. Flatpak still hasn't managed to provide proper permissions management. I doubt Canonical will stop developing snapd.
snapd changelogs:
flatpak changelogs:
https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/blob/main/NEWS
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostWould it be too much to ask to have one Ubuntu comment section a month where everyone would STFU with how much they hate Snaps? We get it. For whatever reason y'all like Ubuntu but hate everything they do. Well, I don't actually get it...Like, are y'all aware that there is a thing called Linux Mint that is basically Ubuntu without Snaps? Why TF aren't y'all using that?
Rhetorically: What's up with all these people using distributions that do things in a different manner than what they'd like and then complaining about all the stuff they have to do to fix it to make it their own? Why won't they take a trip down distribution lane and find something that's more in line with their needs? And if they're not using Ubuntu, why all the hubris about something they're not even using?
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostDid they drop Snaps already or they want to be stubborn and wait again for 10 years until they do that?
Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post...Rhetorically: What's up with all these people using distributions that do things in a different manner than what they'd like and then complaining about all the stuff they have to do to fix it to make it their own? Why won't they take a trip down distribution lane and find something that's more in line with their needs? And if they're not using Ubuntu, why all the hubris about something they're not even using?
My only issue with Snap in personal use was that Firefox started up slower than I cared for on cold starts; this was before they recently fixed it.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostWould it be too much to ask to have one Ubuntu comment section a month where everyone would STFU with how much they hate Snaps?
Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostWe get it. For whatever reason y'all like Ubuntu but hate everything they do. Well, I don't actually get it...Like, are y'all aware that there is a thing called Linux Mint that is basically Ubuntu without Snaps? Why TF aren't y'all using that?
Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostRhetorically: What's up with all these people using distributions that do things in a different manner than what they'd like and then complaining about all the stuff they have to do to fix it to make it their own? Why won't they take a trip down distribution lane and find something that's more in line with their needs? And if they're not using Ubuntu, why all the hubris about something they're not even using?
Ubuntu keeps shooting itself in the foot, Unity was a decent desktop but plagued by lack of Gnome integration, Mir was an interesting Wayland alternative that ultimately turned out to be pointless, and Snaps are shaping up to be a pointless Flatpak alternative. Is there anything Snaps can do that Flatpaks cannot, that isn't a gimmick?
Ubuntu is currently the only company backed desktop distro with proper LTS support. Fedora is not LTS and everything else is pretty much dedicated towards the server market with Desktop as an afterthought (like RHEL). Pop! might make a difference in a few years time though. That is why many are pissed at Ubuntu right now.
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Originally posted by wertigon View PostIs there anything Snaps can do that Flatpaks cannot, that isn't a gimmick?
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Snaps are not for the server. There everyone uses docker, thankfully. BTW redhat hates docker and has tried with multiple strategies to undermine it but is forced to support it because of its popularity.
Snaps could have a use in the enterprise, if desktop Linux was a thing, which is not. There 99% use windows because of Active Directory which is THE killer application for the enterprise and to my knowledge nobody in the free & open source camp cares to challenge. Plus normal people doing actual work on their computer usually posses common sense and wouldn't touch Gnome with a 10 foot pole.
Canonical has no chance IMO against Microsoft . But they had against Apple. Unity was a unique offering that worked surprisingly well and on top targeted directly the young end user. Had they perservered a decade they would have created their own ecosystem which would pay dividends for long time after. Sad.Last edited by zoomblab; 11 August 2022, 03:30 PM.
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