Windows 11 vs. Linux Performance For Intel Core i9 12900K In Mid-2022

[tildearrow]

Can't confirm. W10 boots in fewer than 20 from HDD seconds on my PC. Again, people love to perpetuate myths.

Must be an old, modified or non-stock version of Windows because latest stock Windows 10 takes forever to start.

[birdie]

Must be an old, modified or non-stock version of Windows because latest stock Windows 10 takes forever to start.

If you have a ton of autostarted apps/applications/services, then, yeah, I can imagine that. I'm talking about Windows 10 LTSC.

[coder]

compression algorithms like zstd read the file twice.

If it's block-based, then it wouldn't. You'd just read the block twice, but those are small enough they could be buffered internally by the library.

Either way, I'm not really sure how relevant this is to the performance discrepancy. Sure, if the test reads the entire file twice, and the file is too big to stay in the page cache, then any problems Linux has with sub-optimal read-ahead could be exacerbated. I guess that's your point?

[coder]

doubly so since they feature 2.5" platters.

Those aren't intrinsically slower. In fact, the smaller size means faster seeking. I have some old 10K RPM WD Raptors that were actually 2.5" drives in a 3.5" shell. You could literally unscrew the drive from the shell and use it as a regular 2.5" drive.

[coder]

MSFT is a customer and I’m constantly amazed at the number of their programmers running various Linux desktop distress when I’m in Redmond.

Cool Freudian slip, there.

[coder]

Must be an old, modified or non-stock version of Windows because latest stock Windows 10 takes forever to start.

Starting like in Windows 7, didn't a reboot become more like resuming from hibernation? I seem to recall you had to start doing something special to force a true cold boot.

[tildearrow]

If you have a ton of autostarted apps/applications/services, then, yeah, I can imagine that.

Which is probably the default on a stock Windows 10 Home/Pro installation.

I'm talking about Windows 10 LTSC.

So that was the reason why. Try out Windows 10 Home/Pro and you will see the slowdowns after a couple boot-ups.

(By the way, Linux (openSUSE Leap 15.3 with KDE Plasma) takes 30 seconds to the login screen and 40 more seconds to the desktop on the same machine)

[birdie]

Which is probably the default on a stock Windows 10 Home/Pro installation.



So that was the reason why. Try out Windows 10 Home/Pro and you will see the slowdowns after a couple boot-ups.

1. Absolute most people nowadays are on SSDs. 2. Microsoft has recently started to require SSDs for laptops sold with Windows 11. 3. For the second time now: people start their computers normally just once a day, barely anyone cares about boot speed.

BUT YEAH LINUX IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN WINDOWS IN TERMS OF BOOT SPEED EXCEPT NO ONE HERE HAS TESTED IT.

God damn it. I really really really hate when people try hard to prove that something is bad but they conveniently forget to provide the data that the opposite is actually good.

[birdie]

Those aren't intrinsically slower. In fact, the smaller size means faster seeking. I have some old 10K RPM WD Raptors that were actually 2.5" drives in a 3.5" shell. You could literally unscrew the drive from the shell and use it as a regular 2.5" drive.

Citations needed. You could be thinking about 7200 RPM 2.5" SCSI enterprise drives, well, boohoo, laptop drives are nowhere near close in terms of seek times.

[coder]

Citations needed. You could be thinking about 7200 RPM 2.5" SCSI enterprise drives, well, boohoo, laptop drives are nowhere near close in terms of seek times.

https://www.amazon.com/Velociraptor-WD1000DHTZ-SATA-Hard-Drive/dp/B007VPGJIY

You can just unscrew the 2.5" drive from the big heatsink of a shell it's in.

At work, we have an old Dell server that uses 2.5" SAS drives, so they are/were a thing in enterprise. I presume that's what was behind their transition to 2.5" drives.

Anyway, our server is similar to this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223478187917