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Originally posted by user1 View Post
What if those users hate all the other distros and Fedora is the only distro they like? Cause that's kinda how I feel.
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Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post
Red Hat has developers working on the various upstream codebases and if there isn't a commercial requirement that supports that work ie) Red Hat enterprise customers, they will have to hand it off to the broader community to take it up .
I was recently thinking it would be fun to start a project to make my own phone. I think I can get 95% of the way there with off the shelf components and software, without even needing to make my own distro. However such a project would be impossible to comprehend without the massive ecosystem that has invested in making it a possibility, both from the hardware and software prospects. If I try it, I get to piggy back on their work.
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Originally posted by sinepgib View Post
Whatever manpower they have, they have no obligation to any particular non-paying user. You get what you paid for. You get something for free, you say "thanks". You want it to do x thing, you pay or you do it yourself.
And Elvis dindo drugs ...
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Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
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Originally posted by calc View Post
Yea, Kaby Lake is so ancient.
While Kaby Lake was long after UEFI was introduced large vendors (eg Lenovo) were still shipping broken UEFI even at that point, which couldn't boot Linux without ugly workarounds like using legacy boot mode, and that probably continued even more recently than that.Don't expect much and seldom disappointed.
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Originally posted by calc View Post
Yea, Kaby Lake is so ancient.
While Kaby Lake was long after UEFI was introduced large vendors (eg Lenovo) were still shipping broken UEFI even at that point, which couldn't boot Linux without ugly workarounds like using legacy boot mode, and that probably continued even more recently than that.Last edited by erniv2; 20 May 2022, 06:06 PM.
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Originally posted by BingoNightly View Post
?? Is this something specific to Kaby Lake? I have Lenovos from Ivy Bridge through Skylake (and a couple Silvermonts) and they all boot fine with UEFI, no workarounds or hacks needed during install.
The issue appears to have been that the systems would only boot Windows, unless you manually changed the UEFI boot order via efibootmgr under Linux, and would not display the UEFI boot entries menu, at boot time or even in the firmware selection screen, no matter if there were multiple entries in it or not. To get Linux to boot at all required booting off USB live image to run efibootmgr then tell it to boot the Linux entry.
The same kind of problem also happened on Dell systems, and probably many other companies that only ever checked that their UEFI could boot the default Windows entry for the OS they shipped with.
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Originally posted by calc View Post
It did not seem specific to just Kaby Lake, but Lenovo does have multiple firmware teams, and even using different brand firmwares depending on product line, so maybe only some of the teams are actually competent.
The issue appears to have been that the systems would only boot Windows, unless you manually changed the UEFI boot order via efibootmgr under Linux, and would not display the UEFI boot entries menu, at boot time or even in the firmware selection screen, no matter if there were multiple entries in it or not. To get Linux to boot at all required booting off USB live image to run efibootmgr then tell it to boot the Linux entry.
The same kind of problem also happened on Dell systems, and probably many other companies that only ever checked that their UEFI could boot the default Windows entry for the OS they shipped with.
Can i deactivate Secure Boot if you can good, do i want to ?
Can i choose another zertificate (i dont know this one, too much trouble, downloading one, updating firmware, hackery delux, chance of bricking your mainboard no tnx.)
Can i even use another bootloader, if it´s an acer system probably not (i once had one, yes i was realy this dumb, chances of bricking your pc 100%. Why ? Because they use special partitions and MBR´S there is code in the UEFI(BIOS) that accesses the MBR wich is also nonstandard to access the Recovery Partitions. Oh theres 64GB Unused Disk space let´s install Linux there, DUDUD you just bricked your system, Do you want to install Grub as Bootmanager in the MBR sector ? DUDUD you just bricked your system.)
Long story short if it´s a laptop and branded and has a shiney sticker on it that says windows ready, it´s a pain in the ass to install Linux.
If you want the Linux way you probably build your own PC from parts and know what you do.
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