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  • Grinness
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    Originally posted by Grinness View Post
    Michael

    Am i missing something or the calculations w.r.t. number of last places for arch linux is wrong?

    in the last graph you report for number of last places:

    Arch Linux 21 [20.8%]

    But going through the article I count a total of 10 -- below Arch linux n. of last places in graphs by page in the article:
    Distro Page N.Last
    Arch 2 0
    Arch 3 3
    Arch 4 4
    Arch 5 3
    Arch 6 0
    Total 10
    Sorry results are correct, did not see the link:
    OpenBenchmarking.org, Phoronix Test Suite, Linux benchmarking, automated benchmarking, benchmarking results, benchmarking repository, open source benchmarking, benchmarking test profiles

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  • kef71
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    Arch Linux is one of the slowest distro, when a decade ago it used to be one of the fastest. They need a x86-64v3 port as soon as possible.
    Are any of the other distros tweaked for x86-64v3?

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  • Grinness
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    Michael

    Am i missing something or the calculations w.r.t. number of last places for arch linux is wrong?

    in the last graph you report for number of last places:

    Arch Linux 21 [20.8%]

    But going through the article I count a total of 10 -- below Arch linux n. of last places in graphs by page in the article:
    Distro Page N.Last
    Arch 2 0
    Arch 3 3
    Arch 4 4
    Arch 5 3
    Arch 6 0
    Total 10

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  • birdie
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    Originally posted by -MacNuke- View Post

    Never read any test on phoronix? If you are unable to read a test setup, read the results and combine these two things and look for differences then I can't help you.
    Please don't help me. I prefer to deal with something which is tested using proper methodology and the scientific method. Nothing in your reply contains even a modicum of it.

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  • -MacNuke-
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    Originally posted by birdie View Post
    Conclude what? Based on what?
    Never read any test on phoronix? If you are unable to read a test setup, read the results and combine these two things and look for differences then I can't help you.

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  • birdie
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    Originally posted by -MacNuke- View Post

    Phoronix tests these things individually all the time. It is not that hard to conclude this from the test. You just need to look at the data that was given here. Ubuntu 20.x is bad at zstd? Just look at the software version, it uses is oldest release from all of them. Same software version but different results? Look at the compiler flags. Compiler flags are the same? Look at the test if it is some kind of microbenchmark -> Scheduler.

    It is pretty simple, really. There is no magic behind Linux distributions.
    Conclude what? Based on what?
    Last edited by birdie; 19 May 2022, 10:26 AM.

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  • Anux
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    Arch Linux is one of the slowest distro, when a decade ago it used to be one of the fastest. They need a x86-64v3 port as soon as possible.
    In its standard config maybe but who uses arch linux and doesn't change a thing? The whole point of arch is its customizability. Possibly the CPU sheduler will allready close most of the gap.

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  • -MacNuke-
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    Originally posted by birdie View Post
    Why you quoted my own suspicions is beyond me. The question is: have you actually tested anything? What makes you so bloody confident, "it's simple"?
    Phoronix tests these things individually all the time. It is not that hard to conclude this from the test. You just need to look at the data that was given here. Ubuntu 20.x is bad at zstd? Just look at the software version, it uses is oldest release from all of them. Same software version but different results? Look at the compiler flags. Compiler flags are the same? Look at the test if it is some kind of microbenchmark -> Scheduler.

    It is pretty simple, really. There is no magic behind Linux distributions.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by lfarkas View Post
    AlmaLinux 8.6 already released. It'd be use the latest release in the tests.
    Testing started before it was released.

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  • birdie
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    Originally posted by mlau View Post

    As Michael has written a few times now: The intent is to show distro performance out of the box. No one is stopping you from doing the analysis you requested yourself.
    Let's continue to test then, right? It makes the world a better place, right? It's outright useful, right? There's so much value in it, right? Ad impressions I guess, yeah.

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