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  • #71
    Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post

    That's why I prefer Solus, it's aimed at desktop users and the repository is one of the best maintained. They focus on quality of packages, unlike Ubuntu who ships unmaintained packages in their official repository. I complain about using a PPAs, especially the guides online that always inform users to add third party repositories without informing new users they're adding a third party when running "sudo add-apt-repository." Guides should also transition to showing users how to use the GUI. It's 2022, a terminal isn't needed to use a desktop Linux distro.

    I never used Fedora since it always seemed aimed at Linux developers. I don't see myself enjoying the stock desktop experience on Fedora. Nobara Project seems like a good Fedora based distribution, maybe I'll give it a try but I've been using Solus for almost three years without an issue. https://nobaraproject.org/
    Just to specify that RPM Fusion and Packman are not third -party repositories, but community repositories.
    For the rest I use tumbleweed that being a rolling release everything is updated and I have never had problems.

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    • #72
      Terrific for unpowered users who like to get the desktop in the way of what they do, have their theme out of the 90´s and use an outdated paradigm.

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      • #73
        The new "Console" app is great. You do "sudo", the header bar turns red. You do "ssh", it turns purple. A seemingly trivial feature but it prevents so many stupid mistakes!

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        • #74
          I used Fedora 36 for a bit. Gedit was crash-happy when closing it. I reinstalled openSUSE TW earlier, and the experience is better. I don't know what Fedora does, but for as long as I can remember, boot times were always 5-8+ seconds longer than any other distro (Ubuntu, openSUSE). F36 was the same in this regard.

          ROCm was also significantly easier to get installed on TW surprisingly; this repo was working fine on F36 but broke days ago: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/co...6/rocm-opencl/ Meanwhile for TW I just add AMD's official SLES repo and install rocm-opencl no problem.

          One interesting thing is with a SDL 2 game (RuneScape) and Pipewire; I was able to do SDL_AUDIODRIVER=pipewire for it on F36, but that doesn't work on TW even with pipewire installed (presumably TW's SDL doesn't have it compiled-in).

          Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
          That's why I prefer Solus, it's aimed at desktop users and the repository is one of the best maintained.
          This was years ago, but I got a bad config (typo) pushed to the main repo for vsftpd https://dev.getsol.us/T1236

          It wasn't anything major and there's a good chance I was the only person using vsftpd on Solus at the time, but it was interesting that there were no other checks before that was pushed live

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Charlie68 View Post

            Just to specify that RPM Fusion and Packman are not third -party repositories, but community repositories.
            For the rest I use tumbleweed that being a rolling release everything is updated and I have never had problems.
            Anything not in the official repository is considered a third part package/third party repo if you needed to add one.

            RPM Fusion is a third party repository but a trustworthy one. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories

            Pacman is a package manager, I assume you’re referring to the third party repo called AUR: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/uno...r_repositories

            I’ve had openSUSE tumbleweed installed for about 2 months now. Zypper is the slowest package manager I’ve ever used. I double checked my repos proximity. Today I installed ~2400 packages and that was about an hour. I’d prefer to use RHEL’s dnf rather than use Zypper, while Solus’ eopkg and Void’s xbps run circles around both of them.

            I’m looking forward to using SerpentOS but until then Solus has been the most stable rolling release I’ve used.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post

              Anything not in the official repository is considered a third part package/third party repo if you needed to add one.

              RPM Fusion is a third party repository but a trustworthy one. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories

              Pacman is a package manager, I assume you’re referring to the third party repo called AUR: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/uno...r_repositories

              I’ve had openSUSE tumbleweed installed for about 2 months now. Zypper is the slowest package manager I’ve ever used. I double checked my repos proximity. Today I installed ~2400 packages and that was about an hour. I’d prefer to use RHEL’s dnf rather than use Zypper, while Solus’ eopkg and Void’s xbps run circles around both of them.

              I’m looking forward to using SerpentOS but until then Solus has been the most stable rolling release I’ve used.
              As always experiences can be profoundly different, when I tried Solus I had a lot of problems, so in the end I decided to change despite having placed many hopes in Solus, but I was deeply disappointed ..., now I am very happy with Tumbleweed that I use for 5 years now without problems.
              However, I was referring to the openSUSE packman repository, not Arch pacman.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Charlie68 View Post

                As always experiences can be profoundly different, when I tried Solus I had a lot of problems, so in the end I decided to change despite having placed many hopes in Solus, but I was deeply disappointed ..., now I am very happy with Tumbleweed that I use for 5 years now without problems.
                However, I was referring to the openSUSE packman repository, not Arch pacman.
                Ah thanks for pointing out Packman, only third party repository I needed to add on Tumbleweed was the Nvidia repo. Aside from that I found everything I needed in the official repository. Which is most likely the reason I never needed to look up Packman. I use it for system administration and some gaming. openSUSE Tumbleweed has been stable for me as well. I just found the package manager slow compared to others I’ve used.
                Last edited by WannaBeOCer; 14 May 2022, 02:19 PM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by WannaBeOCer View Post

                  Ah thanks for pointing out Packman, only third party repository I needed to add on Tumbleweed was the Nvidia repo. Aside from that I found everything I needed in the official repository. Which is most likely the reason I never needed to look up Packman. I use it for system administration and some gaming. openSUSE Tumbleweed has been stable for me as well. I just found the package manager slow compared to others I’ve used.
                  Users can use the new zypper backend which will be much faster, but is still in the testing phase at the moment.
                  I am using it and have not had any problems.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by openminded View Post
                    Let me show you what a user will do in such a case:
                    Screenshot_20220512_144127.png
                    That's not very "openminded" though

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by reza View Post

                      That's not very "openminded" though
                      You're not the first one who makes pun of my nickname, but I'm telling you each and every time I laugh 'cause sometimes people confuse "openminded-ness" with tolerance. In this case - towards some bad design or worse, intentional annoying your users with pathetic statements - I mean those that I had quoted in my original reply. Not even taking into account the worst font anti-aliasing ever which made it into Gnome 42 this time - that's a plain insult of users right in their face (was discussed before and still present in the release).

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