It looks like Fedora 37 will be the most disruptive release in years in terms of hardware support. I currently use relatively new hardware for Fedora but it's a bummer I can no longer recommend it to friends looking to "revive" their old computers with Linux. For me, as someone who are not involved, this looks like a negative change.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostA few years ago I tried to run Fedora on a PC with 64MB of RAM. It couldn't even boot into text mode as systemd crashed: "Not enough RAM".
You know.. I tried to sell my old 2nd gen i7 with 16 GB of DDR3. Nobody wanted to pay more than $50 so I just decided to donate the mobo + cpu + memory. IIRC even that mobo supported up to 32 GB of RAM. Even that system would be now ~10 years old.
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Originally posted by Fuchs View PostI assume "This change will identify the remaining configurations that can reach these drivers" will be done as throughout and carefully as they did with the efifb and other traditional framebuffer drivers in Fedora 36, where nvidia users are now left without working VTs. And then yell at nvidia for their own fault. At least other distributions discussing this do care more about their users than politics and wait until all drivers are ready for this change.Last edited by Volta; 10 April 2022, 07:35 AM.
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Originally posted by Volta View Post
Tell those nvidia morons to Open Source their broken POS drivers or shut up. Why users of proper Linux drivers should suffer from nvidia's broken and unsupported POS? How long have we been waiting for Wayland support in nvidia blob?
I mean, tell the FOSS ideologists to write drivers that can compare performance wise, both for graphics and GPU accelerated computing, then maybe people would not have to rely on nvidia products simply because they are better.
Originally posted by Volta View PostAren't you the troll from nvforum where you were criticizing X for nvidia having crappy 2D performance?
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Originally posted by Fuchs View PostOf course when Fedora switches to a configuration that nvidia says they do not support, with zero gain for end users, and other distributions manage to not do that simply by keeping the working configuration around, the fault is nvidias. Perfectly sound logic.
Originally posted by Fuchs View PostI mean, tell the FOSS ideologists to write drivers that can compare performance wise, both for graphics and GPU accelerated computing, then maybe people would not have to rely on nvidia products simply because they are better.
Our exascale supercomputers work sans Nvidia but maybe you can enlighten us?
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Originally posted by mppix View PostThe default Fedora configuration has been wayland for a while now. Now apply any logic you like.
Originally posted by mppix View PostAre they?
Our exascale supercomputers work sans Nvidia but maybe you can enlighten us?
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Originally posted by rmnscnce View PostIt looks like Fedora 37 will be the most disruptive release in years in terms of hardware support. I currently use relatively new hardware for Fedora but it's a bummer I can no longer recommend it to friends looking to "revive" their old computers with Linux. For me, as someone who are not involved, this looks like a negative change.
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Originally posted by Fuchs View Post
Of course when Fedora switches to a configuration that nvidia says they do not support, with zero gain for end users, and other distributions manage to not do that simply by keeping the working configuration around, the fault is nvidias. Perfectly sound logic.
I mean, tell the FOSS ideologists to write drivers that can compare performance wise, both for graphics and GPU accelerated computing, then maybe people would not have to rely on nvidia products simply because they are better.
Given I am neither active in nvforum nor unhappy with nvidia performance nor trolling: nope.
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Originally posted by Volta View Post
Next time they'll consider buying hardware supported properly under Linux.
Originally posted by Volta View PostAMD Open Source drivers washes floor with nvidia blob, so try again.
Originally posted by Volta View PostYes, you're the one NVFuchs. You were defending nvidia miserable 2D performance and blaming Xorg for this. The truth was your driver was POS and nothing changed since.
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Originally posted by Fuchs View Post
Oh, it is perfectly fine supported under Linux. Just not fedora. Unless you boot an older kernel, or compile your own. Other distributions that have sane kernel configs work perfectly fine.
In what respect? I mean, benchmarks heavily disagree, so you must be having something else in mind?
I guess in a magical world where benchmarks are wrong and you are right, you also know better who I am and who am I not than I do. *shrug*
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