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  • Developer12
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    Originally posted by t.s. View Post

    And another reviewer confirmed that the slots is protected by Apple software. So, nope. You cannot self-upgrade your mac. Must via apple.
    Dear god you're both ignorant.

    No, they're not NVMe modules, and no they're not software-locked. Do some fucking research.

    What those modules hold are raw flash chips. The SSD controller is on the M1 die itself. It's firmware is loaded by iBoot, if I recall correctly. Also allows for a lot of bandwidth between the SSD and CPU cores.

    If you swap the modules, it's like swapping individual flash chips between two SSDs. Nothing but corrupted data structures. However, you can easily recover from this using configurator 2 or whatever the stupid provisioning tool is that apple provides, as marcan has demonstrated and written about at length.

    Yes, doing that wipes the data on the SSD storage. But that's unavoidable considering you just swapped the raw flash between SSDs.

    EDIT: Unfortunately, while there's no software lock preventing you from stuffing larger modules in, the flash chips do appear to be custom-made for apple. Good luck sourcing some to make 3rd party modules.

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  • Developer12
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    Originally posted by t.s. View Post

    Yeah, yeah.. Making a server chip is that easy. Whatever you said. 3x perf-per-watt? Versus Intel and AMD server chip? Keep dreaming.
    It's already there in perf-per-watt. Probably higher actually.

    You can compile a linux kernel on an M1 macbook faster than a beefy ryzen desktop.....while sipping power from only the battery. Lasting for 24 hours. And that was on an Asahi kernel that doesn't have proper CPU power management. This thing sucks damn near no power at all.

    Datacenters *love* that. It's a decently powerful chip, but it would also absolutely slash their operating costs.

    Originally posted by t.s. View Post
    peope
    'nuff said.

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  • t.s.
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    Originally posted by Developer12 View Post
    They're pretty much already there. Their chip is already faster than most of what intel and AMD sell, and has roughly 3x the perf-per-watt. (the most important metric in a dataceter) It has higher RAM bandwidth than an 8-slot dual-CPU motherboard. Break out some PCIe lanes, stick linux on it, ship it. The closest thing they have to a competitor is ampere's vaporware.


    You're quite the fan of shitting on people doing good open source work.
    Yeah, yeah.. Making a server chip is that easy. Whatever you said. 3x perf-per-watt? Versus Intel and AMD server chip? Keep dreaming.

    Shitting on peope doing open source work? Butthurt much? Read again all my post.

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  • Developer12
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    Originally posted by t.s. View Post
    Apple server chip? Lol. If only it's that easy to create server chip. But let's see.
    They're pretty much already there. Their chip is already faster than most of what intel and AMD sell, and has roughly 3x the perf-per-watt. (the most important metric in a dataceter) It has higher RAM bandwidth than an 8-slot dual-CPU motherboard. Break out some PCIe lanes, stick linux on it, ship it. The closest thing they have to a competitor is ampere's vaporware.

    Originally posted by t.s. View Post
    I'm no fanboy, like somebody
    You're quite the fan of shitting on people doing good open source work.

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  • t.s.
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    Originally posted by Developer12 View Post
    Server *chip.* Learn to read.

    Why don't you go whine and complain about google instead? I'm sure they'll lock down their depthcharge bootloader payload and coreboot bios any day now, and evict all the people running linux-libre on their C201 chromebooks. After all, google has given those people far less help (zero, in fact) and are actually known for cancelling projects at the drop of a hat.
    Apple server chip? Lol. If only it's that easy to create server chip. But let's see.

    And yes, I *whine* about chromebook too. Non-serviceable junk that when something break (mem, storage) you then just throw it to bin.

    I'm no fanboy, like somebody

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  • t.s.
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    Originally posted by SilverFox View Post

    While the IMac, Mini &. MacBooks do have this, It appears the Mac Studio does have 2 slots for upgradeable nvme storage. It isn’t documented by Apple as having these two slots, But was found by a tear down over on Max Tech on YouTube.
    And another reviewer confirmed that the slots is protected by Apple software. So, nope. You cannot self-upgrade your mac. Must via apple.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by Developer12 View Post
    As if apple have ever cared about that for 30+ years? It was microsoft that bailed them out, not the other way around.
    Either way, it leads to the same result.
    in my point of view apple never had the marketshare to have a monopoly...

    it was only microsoft and intel who had monopoly like marketshare...

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  • Developer12
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    Originally posted by andrei_me View Post

    I see this Apple movement more like a way to avoid future lawsuits of monopoly and so on instead of endorsement to the project.

    This way they can just say in court that one can install any other OS in the hardware without needing to spend millions in court
    As if apple have ever cared about that for 30+ years? It was microsoft that bailed them out, not the other way around.

    Either way, it leads to the same result.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by Developer12 View Post
    They rival the best x86 chips in performance while drawing a fraction of the power. What they have is a blockbuster server chip on their hands. But to take advantage of that they need linux. Nobody will deploy real servers on macos.
    right because of the performance per watt it is a very good server chip
    also they tried macos servers in the past and it failed... this means you are right if they want to sell their chips into the server market they need linux support.

    and why not _?= linux in the server market on apple hardware is no danger to their desktop and smartphone walled garden.

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  • andrei_me
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    Originally posted by Developer12 View Post
    They've continued to make changes and fix things that are *only* a problem for the Asahi team and have no effect on macos. At this point, there's all but official endorsement of the project.
    I see this Apple movement more like a way to avoid future lawsuits of monopoly and so on instead of endorsement to the project.

    This way they can just say in court that one can install any other OS in the hardware without needing to spend millions in court

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