Slackware 15.0 Released After Many Years In Development

[higuita]

Seriously? 2022 and no https?

curl https://www.slackware.com -v
* Trying 2a02:26f0:3500:1b::1724:a390:443...
* Connected to www.slackware.com (2a02:26f0:3500:1b::1724:a390) port 443 (#0)
* ALPN, offering h2
* ALPN, offering http/1.1
* CAfile: none
* CApath: /etc/ssl/certs/
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Encrypted Extensions (8):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Certificate (11):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, CERT verify (15):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS change cipher, Change cipher spec (1):
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
* SSL connection using TLSv1.3 / TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
* ALPN, server accepted to use h2
* Server certificate:
* subject: CN=slackware.com
* start date: Dec 30 08:45:26 2021 GMT
* expire date: Mar 30 08:45:25 2022 GMT
* subjectAltName: host "www.slackware.com" matched cert's "www.slackware.com"
* issuer: C=US; O=Let's Encrypt; CN=R3
* SSL certificate verify ok.
* Using HTTP2, server supports multiplexing
* Connection state changed (HTTP/2 confirmed)
* Copying HTTP/2 data in stream buffer to connection buffer after upgrade: len=0
* Using Stream ID: 1 (easy handle 0x22a6980)
> GET / HTTP/2
> Host: www.slackware.com
> user-agent: curl/7.81.0
> accept: */*
>
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Newsession Ticket (4):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Newsession Ticket (4):
* old SSL session ID is stale, removing
< HTTP/2 301
< server: AkamaiGHost
< content-length: 0
< location: http://www.slackware.com/
< date: Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:51:13 GMT
<
* Connection #0 to host www.slackware.com left intact

So there is https, it just redirects to plain http ... if there are no secure info there, no shop, let http work for plain text and cache layers. No need to blindly use https when it is not really needed (hey, remember all those ssl/tls related security bugs!!)

[archsway]

Definitely. You need to look no further than android and chromeos with all their classic init, layers of shell scripts and missing functionality that users have been eagerly waiting for a decade. If Android and chromeos with their billions of users ever want to become successful and packed with modern features, they should take a leaf out of systemd and desktop linux.

Chrome OS actually did partly migrate to using systemd (thought not as an init system), but I think that they eventually reverted that decision and no longer use any part of systemd. I think they are still using upstart as the init system.

[2A4U]

Thank you very much Mr. Patrick Volkerding-san.

[xhustler]

Oh yes that's what I hate about you.
You seemingly don't care about the fact this is more of a historical distro with ~25 years of existence.
There are other distros if you need such stuff, but don't you shit on a distro that shaped the history of Linux.

As a Slackware user (running it on 30+ servers) - thank you sir.

[vladimir86]

I find myself wondering what Slackware offers that gentoo does not.

Gentoo is source-based, more configurable, better package manager, choices of init rather than mandating deprecated methods, etc.

No distro is better to any other. Slackware keeps a very pure Unix feeling, also builds a lot from source (because eventually you'll need Slackpkgs), I find it better organized, with a more strict /bin and /usr/bin usage... (and better local readmes)

Funny enough, I keep both Gentoio and Slackware-current in partitions on my computer (with Arch, FreeBSD and Fedora35)

By far, the one which I enjoy the most using from all the Linux Is Slackware. It has an amazing look and feel over Gentoo or any other. Gentoo is a second favorite, but it goes behind FreeBSD, which also has an amazing ports system which doesn't rely on python, which I dislike.

[scottishduck]

No distro is better to any other. Slackware keeps a very pure Unix feeling, also builds a lot from source (because eventually you'll need Slackpkgs), I find it better organized, with a more strict /bin and /usr/bin usage... (and better local readmes)

Funny enough, I keep both Gentoio and Slackware-current in partitions on my computer (with Arch, FreeBSD and Fedora35)

By far, the one which I enjoy the most using from all the Linux Is Slackware. It has an amazing look and feel over Gentoo or any other. Gentoo is a second favorite, but it goes behind FreeBSD, which also has an amazing ports system which doesn't rely on python, which I dislike.

I’ll maybe load up a Slackware VM and see what it has to offer.

[lucrus]

Definitely. You need to look no further than android and chromeos with all their classic init, layers of shell scripts and missing functionality that users have been eagerly waiting for a decade. If Android and chromeos with their billions of users ever want to become successful and packed with modern features, they should take a leaf out of systemd and desktop linux.

First of all, the success of an OS on desktop is not a measure of how good it is. By your reasoning we should deduce that Windows is the best OS out there.
Secondly, systemd modern features are moslty useful to sysadmins (e.g. on servers) and chromeos and Android are not server oriented operating systems.
Last but not least, systemd is easier to deal with for distro developers, not necessarily for end users, let alone smartphone owners.

[Soul_keeper]

A lot of people seem to want to talk bad about slackware. I've been using it for 20yrs, it is perfect for me. There is nothing I can't do that other distros do. I also find myself less and less interested in the newer flavor of the week software that is supposed to replace/change everything.
I see things like systemd, pulseaudio, and to some extent wayland as disruptive in many ways. They have a cult following similar to certain newer programming languages ie: rust, python, go, etc. Slackware is not against progress, we just keep things that have always worked.
Slackware is perhaps one of the most GNU/Linux distros left. We're all part of the same community.

Our distro works fine. I havn't even installed windows on any computer I own since 2004. Before slackware I used to dual boot windows and redhat.

[eldes]

It's really a good news. People must learn about Linux history before talking against Slackware.. specially those whom address, support & develop systemd based systems (Red Hat free employees)
Systemd design was contrary to the Unix philosophy of interconnected utilities with narrowly defined functionalities.