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    Phoronix: Hyperscalers Have Been Making CentOS 9 Stream More Attractive With New Features

    While many were upset by CentOS Linux 8 going premature EOL at the end of last year, for those that made the move to CentOS Stream there continues to be a love of moment in part by the recently establisher Hyperscale SIG. For CentOS Stream 9, the big hyperscalers have been working on some interesting additions/backporting to the platform...

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ale-Start-2022

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    I thought CentOS Stream was already supposed to be more up-to-date than that? This makes it sound like it's still too "stable" to be useful on its own.

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    • #3
      Stream is just redhat beta, it should not be called CentOS at all, since its not CentOS and its actually a rhel beta.

      The hyperscalers SIG just pushes their own agenda, to make it easier for them to use, so nothing special.

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      • #4
        On the other hand, Alma and Rocky Linux make CentOS Stream less attractive...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NateHubbard View Post
          I thought CentOS Stream was already supposed to be more up-to-date than that? This makes it sound like it's still too "stable" to be useful on its own.
          If you can, could you elaborate on what aspects you're referring to that give you that sentiment?

          Cheers,
          Mike

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          • #6
            Just install Fedora?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NateHubbard View Post
              I thought CentOS Stream was already supposed to be more up-to-date than that? This makes it sound like it's still too "stable" to be useful on its own.
              CentOS (ELx) is targeted towards a stable stable base. Same kernel, and same libraries, essentially for its lifetime. While security and bugfix backports happen, CentOS (ELx) does not, in general, get the best of the best of the best of later kernels and libraries.

              The hyperscalers often want the latest kernel features (often designed to the the needs of the hyperscalers). or the latest features. So while they all want "stable" (i.e. well tested and reliable), they all also need the higher performance/capabilities. Yes, there is some conflict there, but the hyperscalers also, typically, have a large staff of very experienced developers (kernel and otherwise) that can do sufficient testing to know that upgrading to a new kernel will be good for all (and they can backport fixes as needed).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mario Junior View Post
                Just install Fedora?
                Fedora moves just a bit too fast as a base (although it should be noted that Amazon Linux Next (and Next+1, +2, etc.) will be Fedora derived, although not, strictly speaking, Fedora), and Fedora is certainly where a lot of the (eventual) kernel/library/app versions that the SIG will make available will get some initial release and validation.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                  On the other hand, Alma and Rocky Linux make CentOS Stream less attractive...
                  No, it is just different targets. Rebuilders of RHEL are useful for consumers. CentOS stream itself is attractive for the community of contributors.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mroche View Post

                    If you can, could you elaborate on what aspects you're referring to that give you that sentiment?

                    Cheers,
                    Mike
                    If they are having to backport things to it, then isn't it too outdated for their purposes?

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