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  • #11
    i've been using noto fonts for awhile now on arch with gnome. as described, its language support is amazing and the font looks nice too.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by StarterX4 View Post
      It's a nonsense keeping some stale and incomplete fonts while we have the whole Noto font family. Ubuntu should consider switching as well.
      I don't know if Ubuntu's fonts are missing a specific language, but I personally prefer them to other fonts, and always change my machine's font to them if I am going to use the machine for more than one day. As such, if there isn't some flaw that can be proved objectively (like in Fedora's case) it doesn't make much sense to change the fonts.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by er888kh View Post

        I don't know if Ubuntu's fonts are missing a specific language, but I personally prefer them to other fonts, and always change my machine's font to them if I am going to use the machine for more than one day. As such, if there isn't some flaw that can be proved objectively (like in Fedora's case) it doesn't make much sense to change the fonts.
        The ubuntu fonts for Arabic language is very very ugly.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by StarterX4
          Ubuntu should consider switching as well.
          Why? Ubuntu has the best font of any platform I’ve used. Don’t touch what isn’t broken.

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          • #15
            Noto has the best free japanese fonts in my opinion, and to me they look better than RICOH/MS Mincho fonts.

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            • #16
              Throw this into ~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/20-custom-fonts.conf:

              Code:
              <?xml version='1.0'?>
              <!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'urn:fontconfig:fonts.dtd'>
              <fontconfig>
              <match target="font">
              <edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
              <bool>true</bool>
              </edit>
              <edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
              <bool>false</bool>
              </edit>
              <edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
              <bool>true</bool>
              </edit>
              <edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
              <const>hintslight</const>
              </edit>
              <edit name="lcdfilter" mode="assign">
              <const>lcddefault</const>
              </edit>
              <edit name="embeddedbitmap" mode="assign">
              <bool>false</bool>
              </edit>
              <edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
              <const>rgb</const>
              </edit>
              </match>
              <!-- Aliases for commonly used MS fonts. -->
              <match>
              <test name="family"><string>Helvetica</string></test>
              <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="strong">
              <string>Arial</string>
              </edit>
              </match>
              <match>
              <test name="family"><string>Helvetica Neue</string></test>
              <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="strong">
              <string>Arial</string>
              </edit>
              </match>
              <match>
              <test name="family"><string>Open Sans</string></test>
              <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="strong">
              <string>Arial</string>
              </edit>
              </match>
              <match>
              <test name="family"><string>Times</string></test>
              <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="strong">
              <string>Times New Roman</string>
              </edit>
              </match>
              <match>
              <test name="family"><string>Monospace</string></test>
              <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="strong">
              <string>Droid Sans Mono</string>
              </edit>
              </match>
              </fontconfig>
              P.S: you'll know it's working if you change antialias to false and reload your terminal and see how ugly it looks. Cheers.

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              • #17
                Fedora, if you want to improve default fonts, get rid of Cantarell. This one was really beaten by ugly stick. Make a deal with Ubuntu to use Ubuntu font, or Intel's Clear Sans, heck even DejaVu is leagues better than Cantarell.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by szymon_g View Post
                  just change 'em to ubuntu fonts.
                  Ubuntu font license...

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by lu_tze View Post
                    Fedora, if you want to improve default fonts, get rid of Cantarell. This one was really beaten by ugly stick. Make a deal with Ubuntu to use Ubuntu font, or Intel's Clear Sans, heck even DejaVu is leagues better than Cantarell.
                    How dare you say DejaVu Sans is better than Cantarell?
                    It's an old and obese font.
                    Apple replaced Lucida with Helvetica and then San Francisco.
                    Microsoft replaced MS Shell with Tahoma and then Segoe.
                    But the Linux community? No, DejaVu Sans since 2000 and still going...

                    Come on, give Linux desktop a good refresh...

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                    • #20
                      Meanwhile I continue to use Microsoft TTF fonts which look spectacular.

                      Also, there's a nice add-on for Firefox called ReFont which allows to disable custom Web fonts which have infested the entire web. Windows 10 and 11 render them OK'ish (in classic applications) but FreeType/Pango continue to struggle hard with them, so I prefer not to see them at all.

                      Here's how I see this page in case people want to enjoy something warm, crisp and nice. Make sure you see this screenshot at 100% scale/magnification.

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