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  • #11
    Originally posted by Veto View Post
    Are there any stats for who the people and companies behind Debian are? E.g. similar to the git stats sometimes shown for the Linux kernel.

    Maybe an idea for an upcoming Phoronix article?
    No. Debian is an universal conspiracy.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ping-wu View Post

      I switched from Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to Debian Testing earlier this year. Have been a happy camper ever since! No looking back!
      Good to know, thanks. I'm backing up some data and thinking about doing it soon. My GPT and partition table got all screwy (though everything still works, hanging on a thread), so I'm looking to re-do my RAID partition and start fresh with a Debian-based distro (just can't do arch, unfortunately).

      I was wondering, can you tell me some things you've liked over Ubuntu. I've disabled a crap ton of Ubuntu stuff, it's really more Debian now, which is why I was saying it might be a waste of time, but it also might not be either. Only one way to find out...

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      • #13
        Originally posted by perpetually high View Post

        Good to know, thanks. I'm backing up some data and thinking about doing it soon. My GPT and partition table got all screwy (though everything still works, hanging on a thread), so I'm looking to re-do my RAID partition and start fresh with a Debian-based distro (just can't do arch, unfortunately).

        I was wondering, can you tell me some things you've liked over Ubuntu. I've disabled a crap ton of Ubuntu stuff, it's really more Debian now, which is why I was saying it might be a waste of time, but it also might not be either. Only one way to find out...
        Don't have time to go into details, and you did not ask me, but lets just say Debian is pro and Ubuntu is kiddie.

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        • #14
          I like Debian and I run it and Devuan on some computers, but I've never understood why the freeze packages that are clearly in active development and clearly broken.
          For example, why freeze PipeWire at 3.19 (which doesn't really work that well), when they could bump the version on something that isn't default anyways and get bugs ironed out for the next release?
          Freezing based on date and not actual bugs seems kinda weird to me.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by moilami View Post

            Don't have time to go into details, and you did not ask me, but lets just say Debian is pro and Ubuntu is kiddie.
            Fair, thanks for the response. Way less overhead without all the things that Ubuntu adds on top. I think I'm gonna do it soon.

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            • #16
              There is nothing kiddie about Ubuntu.
              I use and like both distros, but for desktop I much prefer Ubuntu with snaps, ppas, hardware drivers, updated hwe kernels and the availability of newer releases every 6 months (on laptop I don't need LTS, but i usually do stay on LTS releases).
              For servers, if it is my own server Debian and Ubuntu are equally fine. If is it cloud or a container image I usually have more options with Ubuntu.

              Last but not least, if you are feeling tempted to move to Debian now because it is fresh out, you will be back on Ubuntu's camp quite soon.

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              • #17
                GNOME 3.38?
                No GNOME 40?

                The new Debian 11 seems already outdated.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by perpetually high View Post

                  Good to know, thanks. I'm backing up some data and thinking about doing it soon. My GPT and partition table got all screwy (though everything still works, hanging on a thread), so I'm looking to re-do my RAID partition and start fresh with a Debian-based distro (just can't do arch, unfortunately).

                  I was wondering, can you tell me some things you've liked over Ubuntu. I've disabled a crap ton of Ubuntu stuff, it's really more Debian now, which is why I was saying it might be a waste of time, but it also might not be either. Only one way to find out...
                  Depending on where you come from you can install a minimal Debian with just some essential packages and then use apt-get to install only the packages you are interested in.
                  I made a shell-script which I run after a minimal install, which installs all the programs and packages I am interested in and sets up the whole system for my needs.

                  For example xanmod kernel:
                  Code:
                  #!/bin/bash
                  #
                  # Installs the xanmod kernel.
                  # See: https://xanmod.org/
                  #
                  
                  
                  
                  echo
                  echo "--- Install the xanmod kernel ---"
                  echo
                  
                  echo "Adding the repository..."
                  echo "deb http://deb.xanmod.org releases main" | tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xanmod-kernel.list
                  checkIfError
                  
                  echo "Installing gnupg to be able to import the signing key..."
                  apt-get --yes install gnupg
                  checkIfError
                  
                  echo "Installing the GPG key..."
                  wget -qO - "https://dl.xanmod.org/gpg.key" | apt-key --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/xanmod-kernel.gpg add -
                  checkIfError
                  
                  echo "Updating package cache..."
                  apt-get --yes update
                  checkIfError
                  
                  echo "Installing the xanmod kernel..."
                  apt-get --yes install linux-xanmod
                  checkIfError
                  checkIfRebootRequired
                  "Essential" programs:
                  Code:
                  #!/bin/bash
                  #
                  # Install the packages that make up the system.
                  #
                  
                  
                  
                  echo
                  echo "--- Install desired packages ---"
                  echo
                  
                  # Will contain the names of all the packages to install
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL=
                  
                  # Install GPU firmware: AMD, Intel does not need one, fuck Nvidia
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  firmware-amd-graphics
                  "
                  
                  # Install CPU microcode: AMD, Intel
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  amd64-microcode
                  intel-microcode
                  iucode-tool
                  "
                  
                  # Install console must-have packages
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  lm-sensors
                  net-tools
                  "
                  
                  # Install console optional packages
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  aptitude
                  git
                  htop
                  hyphen-de
                  hyphen-en-us
                  libdvd-pkg
                  s-tui
                  syncthing
                  tree
                  youtube-dl
                  zram-tools
                  zstd
                  "
                  
                  # Install plasma desktop and sddm display manager
                  # add later: plasma-workspace-wayland
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  plasma-desktop
                  sddm
                  "
                  
                  # Install GUI must-have packages
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  ark
                  dolphin
                  dolphin-plugins
                  kate
                  kcalc
                  konsole
                  partitionmanager
                  plasma-nm
                  plasma-widgets-addons
                  print-manager
                  "
                  
                  # Install GUI main packages
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  thunderbird
                  "
                  
                  # Check if package "firefox" is known, otherwise install "firefox-esr"
                  echo "Is package 'firefox' available?..."
                  if [ -z "`apt-cache search '^firefox$'`" ]; then
                  echo "No, installing package 'firefox-esr'"
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  firefox-esr
                  "
                  else
                  echo "Yes, installing package 'firefox'"
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  firefox
                  "
                  fi
                  
                  # Install GUI optional packages
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  audacious
                  filelight
                  gimp
                  gimp-help-en
                  gwenview
                  kolourpaint
                  libavcodec-extra
                  libreoffice-calc
                  libreoffice-draw
                  libreoffice-impress
                  libreoffice-writer
                  libreoffice-help-en-us
                  mpv
                  okular
                  okular-extra-backends
                  "
                  
                  # Install Vulkan driver and tools
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  mesa-vulkan-drivers
                  vulkan-tools
                  "
                  
                  echo "Installing desired packages..."
                  apt-get --yes install ${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  checkIfError
                  checkIfRebootRequired
                  Virtualbox:
                  Code:
                  #!/bin/bash
                  #
                  # Install the packages that make up VirtualBox.
                  #
                  
                  
                  
                  echo
                  echo "--- Install VirtualBox and their Guest Additions and video driver ---"
                  echo
                  
                  # Will contain the names of all the packages to install
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL=
                  
                  echo "Is package 'virtualbox' available?..."
                  if [ -z "`apt-cache search '^virtualbox$'`" ]; then
                  echo "No, skipping installation of VirtualBox"
                  else
                  echo "Yes, installing VirtualBox et. al."
                  PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL="${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  virtualbox
                  virtualbox-guest-x11
                  xserver-xorg-video-vmware
                  "
                  fi
                  
                  echo "Installing desired packages..."
                  apt-get --yes install ${PACKAGES_TO_INSTALL}
                  checkIfError
                  checkIfRebootRequired
                  
                  echo "Stopping and disabling vboxweb.service..."
                  systemctl stop vboxweb.service
                  # do not check for errors as this service is not always available
                  systemctl disable vboxweb.service
                  # do not check for errors as this service is not always available
                  checkIfRebootRequired
                  As an inspiration, YMMV

                  Hm, might as well publish the repo sometime...
                  Last edited by reba; 15 August 2021, 07:08 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by mbello View Post
                    There is nothing kiddie about Ubuntu.
                    I use and like both distros, but for desktop I much prefer Ubuntu with snaps, ppas, hardware drivers, updated hwe kernels and the availability of newer releases every 6 months (on laptop I don't need LTS, but i usually do stay on LTS releases).
                    For servers, if it is my own server Debian and Ubuntu are equally fine. If is it cloud or a container image I usually have more options with Ubuntu.

                    Last but not least, if you are feeling tempted to move to Debian now because it is fresh out, you will be back on Ubuntu's camp quite soon.
                    Or switch to Debian testing or unstable, which are more like rolling releases without point-releases

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                      GNOME 3.38?
                      No GNOME 40?

                      The new Debian 11 seems already outdated.
                      I don't see Gnome 40 as superior to Gnome 38 in fact I prefer 38 as long as not all of my favorite extensions are available for 40.

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