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Gentoo Spins Up More Stage Downloads For Musl libc, Systemd Init

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  • #21
    I wonder if there are any plans to introduce ~arch stage3's. I also hope they make systemd the default and have openrc as the alternative

    Just downloaded their musl image and was surprised there wasn't clang or libc++ on there - surely it can't be that long before GNU/Linux becomes LLVM/Linux

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    • #22
      The addition of nomultilib-systemd is very welcome.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
        Y'know, one of the worst stereotypes of Linux users is this abhorrent superiority complex you exemplify.
        I remember when Linux for beginners was a new thing, 20 years ago. They got a lot of flack from the expert crowd, that were offended by things like a script to open the CD-ROM tray when you pressed its button...

        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
        The average idiot with basic motor skills can drive a manual
        True. I can drive one every day :-)

        I remember the first time I drove a automatic. The guy next to me explained the letters in the lever and off we go. A couple seconds later we both have our heads leaning forward and we start to laugh hard. Since I learned to drive in a manual, my instinct was to press the clutch to engage second gear, so I pressed the brake pedal instead (is larger in automatics). I did it a couple more times then I finally overcame the urge to use my left foot.

        The only thing I dislike in automatics are the ones that didn't have crawling when you release the brake. It was nerve wreaking parking a E-Class Mercedes in a tight garage, with the owner (and my CEO boss) looking in my early 20's...
        Last edited by [email protected]; 20 July 2021, 03:19 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by perpetually high View Post
          I only respect Gentoo users, not the arch crowd....
          That was remarkably successful. I know it's trolling and I'm inclined to take the bate anyway.

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          • #25
            Holy hell if I wanted confirmation that this place is full of redditors this comment section is that

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            • #26
              Originally posted by TheCycoONE View Post

              That was remarkably successful. I know it's trolling and I'm inclined to take the bate anyway.
              His nickname checks out, "perpetually high"

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              • #27
                Originally posted by perpetually high View Post

                That's great, and I'm really sorry you feel that way about me. I thought posting here for 4 years being the nicest, helpful m*****f***** would earn me some credit, but apparently not.
                My first boss had a great, truthful saying: 1,000 AttaBoys == 1 AwS#!t. Your first post in this thread is an AwS#!t which exterminated 1,000 saved up AttaBoys


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                • #28
                  Imagine being so grump and pure of salt that you gotta rain on some memers because their joy is offensive to your grump state.

                  Also "dem damn kids skateboarding on the sidewalk!" so I did what anybody would do and tipped my cain in front of the wheel until he poped a boner and crashed into the ground. What an asshole! That'll teach him to enjoy my public sidewalk. /s

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by andyprough View Post
                    Gentoo systemd spins - when you want a big, greasy side dish of bloat to go with your minimalism. It's like the "strict vegan" who binges on weekends and eats fried chicken and pepperoni pizza. We all know that guy.
                    Just to be on topic, here is a Gentoo sytemd system I set up a while back, running a completely modern stack and kernel at the time (2019.11) on a pII w/500meg ram. It boots impressively quickly (once it gets past the glacial BIOS post). I am not seeing the bloat and complexity.... (This is without running a DE, which it can do, so you can just see my ssh shell and systemd services.)

                    Code:
                    1 [|| 1.3%] Tasks: 16, 1 thr; 1 running
                    2 [ 0.0%] Load average: 0.01 0.09 0.06
                    Mem[||||||||||||||| 25.5M/559M] Uptime: 00:05:13
                    Swp[ 0K/2.00G]
                    
                    PID USER PRI NI VIRT RES SHR S CPU% MEM% TIME+ Command
                    294 set 20 0 9008 3424 2808 R 1.3 0.6 0:01.37 htop
                    284 set 20 0 7512 4032 3408 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.16 sshd: [email protected]/0
                    1 root 20 0 28972 6856 5644 S 0.0 1.2 0:03.95 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
                    162 root 20 0 58740 12084 11636 S 0.0 2.1 0:01.12 /lib/systemd/systemd-journald
                    178 root 20 0 18216 5240 4464 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.75 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
                    184 systemd-n 20 0 18484 5404 4968 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.21 /lib/systemd/systemd-networkd
                    223 systemd-t 20 0 19588 4588 4224 S 0.0 0.8 0:00.00 /lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd
                    218 systemd-t 20 0 19588 4588 4224 S 0.0 0.8 0:00.42 /lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd
                    225 messagebu 20 0 5684 3740 3308 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.55 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog
                    233 root 20 0 6440 4388 4012 S 0.0 0.8 0:00.09 /usr/sbin/sshd -D -e
                    234 root 20 0 9760 4964 4520 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.34 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
                    235 root 20 0 4404 2156 2036 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.02 /sbin/agetty -o -p -- \u --noclear tty1 linux
                    273 root 20 0 4404 2144 2028 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.01 /sbin/agetty -o -p -- \u --noclear tty2 linux
                    275 root 20 0 7512 5524 4904 S 0.0 1.0 0:00.35 sshd: set [priv]
                    278 set 20 0 11004 6192 5492 S 0.0 1.1 0:00.95 /lib/systemd/systemd --user
                    279 set 20 0 29928 2916 1592 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.00 (sd-pam)
                    285 set 20 0 8372 3456 3064 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.11 -bash

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                    • #30
                      Things I like:
                      Work with the same feel on many arch No phone home for updates
                      Very little BG tasks without you putting them on at default or boot level
                      Able to slot multiple versions of many libraries or software neatly
                      Things I hate:
                      . Emerge -uvDN world when perl, ruby, kde or python version is updated....

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