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  • #11
    Originally posted by andre30correia View Post

    boring desktop, slow like hell, looks like windows xp, much better to use xfce or gnome with dash to panel
    The major difference is that xfce (and MATE) has unremovable screen tearing, while Cinnamon doesn't.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by scottishduck View Post
      Cinnamon seems to have seriously stagnated which is a shame.
      Originally posted by andre30correia View Post
      boring desktop, slow like hell, looks like windows xp, much better to use xfce or gnome with dash to panel
      Cinnamon uses roughly the same amount of ram as XFCE and is much faster than Gnome 3 so its not clear why you recommend Gnome 3 over it when you claim Cinnamon is too slow.

      Are you still running an ancient system with a SMR hard drive?

      Cinnamon runs fast even on 10+ year old systems, as long as you have a SSD. And you can get a SSD for under $20.

      Looking similar to Windows 95-10, with its 80%+ marketshare, is a feature. If you want a Mac buy one instead of using Gnome 3, which is just trying to clone it, eg Launchpad, etc.

      And not trying to clone macOS isn't being stagnate. Gnome designers apparently feel like they are stagnating if they aren't actively breaking things with every release.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by calc View Post


        Cinnamon uses roughly the same amount of ram as XFCE and is much faster than Gnome 3 so its not clear why you recommend Gnome 3 over it when you claim Cinnamon is too slow.

        Are you still running an ancient system with a SMR hard drive?

        Cinnamon runs fast even on 10+ year old systems, as long as you have a SSD. And you can get a SSD for under $20.

        Looking similar to Windows 95-10, with its 80%+ marketshare, is a feature. If you want a Mac buy one instead of using Gnome 3, which is just trying to clone it, eg Launchpad, etc.

        And not trying to clone macOS isn't being stagnate. Gnome designers apparently feel like they are stagnating if they aren't actively breaking things with every release.
        Saying GNOME is like MacOS would imply GNOME is nice to use as opposed to the reality of its tablet focused, anti-multitasking hell.

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        • #14
          One thing that doesn't use any extra RAM is a decent colour scheme. The current one for Linux Mint looks absolutely awful. Virtually all black with a weird green highlight. Even in the screeshot shown you can see some buttons blending into the menu, and the terminal icon is basically invisible.

          If they can't get really basic things like that right, why would I even bother using Mint?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by scottishduck View Post
            Saying GNOME is like MacOS would imply GNOME is nice to use as opposed to the reality of its tablet focused, anti-multitasking hell.
            Perhaps more like an attempted hybrid of macOS and iOS. Its even more obvious with their Gnome 40 changes.

            And nobody would really blame them for going tablet focused back in 2010 when it looked like that was the way the market was actually headed. But it became pretty quickly that was not the case, even after Microsoft killed off Windows 8 due to all the backlash the Gnome devs just doubled down on it.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by furtadopires View Post
              Are they still in denial with Wayland?
              Not sure what you mean by "denial," but as a downstream distro of Ubuntu LTS, they have stated that (naturally) there will be no consideration of Wayland until it is the default display server in Ubuntu LTS.

              X.Org is currently still the Ubuntu LTS display.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by tornado99 View Post
                One thing that doesn't use any extra RAM is a decent colour scheme. The current one for Linux Mint looks absolutely awful. Virtually all black with a weird green highlight. Even in the screeshot shown you can see some buttons blending into the menu, and the terminal icon is basically invisible.
                Clearly you have never used it at all.

                It changes to whatever color you want, when first login it asks you what settings you want to use.

                And there are additional themes you can use afterwards if you care to change them.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by tornado99 View Post
                  One thing that doesn't use any extra RAM is a decent colour scheme. The current one for Linux Mint looks absolutely awful. Virtually all black with a weird green highlight.
                  Mint ships with thirty-five packaged themes, plus the ability to customize your own. A theme determines all the colours, icons, window dressing, highlight colours, etc.

                  You can select a theme by going to Menu -> Preferences -> Themes
                  Last edited by unis_torvalds; 08 July 2021, 01:03 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by unis_torvalds View Post

                    Not sure what you mean by "denial," but as a downstream distro of Ubuntu LTS, they have stated that (naturally) there will be no consideration of Wayland until it is the default display server in Ubuntu LTS.

                    X.Org is currently still the Ubuntu LTS display.
                    I meant by show no effort publicly about a Wayland implementation with Muffin, as you answer yourself. I would understand they not defaulting to Wayland yet due to being based Ubuntu lts / Debian (which both already have some kind of wayland support), but pretending that Wayland it's a very distant thing in the future it's a little odd nowadays.



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                    • #20
                      calc , so why do they ship a default theme with the shutdown button, lock screen button, and terminal icon practically invisible?

                      Plenty of people never change from the defaults, so they can't even get that right...

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