CentOS Stream 9 Builds Flowing, Opened Up For Contributors

[tildearrow]

By keeping the name CentOS, Red Hat can claim they didn't kill CentOS. Which is of course ridiculous. Keeping the name doesn't mean anything. They killed CentOS as we knew it.

They should just call it RHentOS

The community's gone...

[CommunityMember]

Sorry Redhat/Centos, i don't want centos stream.

I want long term CentOs support or free RHEL for my productive servers.

Red Hat offers a free tier for smaller production workloads (and developers can get free use too).

[MadeUpName]

RHEL 9 alpha was branched from Fedora 34.

Thanks for posting that. That is good news in a lot of ways. Unfortunately the Fedora crew haven't even looked at the ROCM-runtime since last year even in Koji. I was hoping the RH crew might have given it some extra attention due to it being more important on servers.

[pipe13]

By keeping the name CentOS, Red Hat can claim they didn't kill CentOS. Which is of course ridiculous. Keeping the name doesn't mean anything. They killed CentOS as we knew it.

Alma is and Rocky is becoming CentOS as we knew it. RedHat made both of them possible.

[browseria]

Any one seen any documentation of what is changing between 8 and 9 besides a point upgrade of the kernel? ...

RHEL 9 alpha was branched from Fedora 34.

RHEL 8 was branched from Fedora 28.

RHEL 7 was branched from Fedora 19/20.

(see also: Wikipedia - Relationship_with_Fedora)

Diffing between those versions will get you a rough idea of what to expect, but only the Release Notes will be able to tell you for sure.

[M@GOid]

Looks like IBM got a new CEO, this time a Asian one, like all the other big (and profitable) tech companies. Lets see hows he handles the opensource projects IBM have.

[RahulSundaram]

Any one seen any documentation of what is changing between 8 and 9 besides a point upgrade of the kernel? With how long RH release cycles are out of the box openCL support would make sense if they want to stay relevant in the data center, but I am not convinced any one at Redhat has ever heard of openCL.

All the changes you see in Fedora after the EL8 would likely end up in EL9. You can look up the Fedora feature list for a summary.

Also Red Hat is an openCL contributor. Phoronix has covered it as well

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Red-Hat-NIR-Work-OpenCL

[MadeUpName]

Any one seen any documentation of what is changing between 8 and 9 besides a point upgrade of the kernel? With how long RH release cycles are out of the box openCL support would make sense if they want to stay relevant in the data center, but I am not convinced any one at Redhat has ever heard of openCL.

[SyXbiT]

Stream should not be called CentOS since its not CentOS but a RHEL beta.

Sure, redhat wants to put some distance between its products and the community. They killed the CentOS project, as part of a bigger strategy to remove "community" and loss making projects from their core strategy.

A similar example is Ansible. Once it became a core redhat product, they killed all 3rd party modules and moved them to community maintenance. Redhat will no longer support community stuff, instead they will focus on their core products that make money. The community will have to maintain 3rd party modules on their own.

We are lucky that Alma and Rocky, will pickup the slack and we'll have free enterprise distros with full support for free.

By keeping the name CentOS, Red Hat can claim they didn't kill CentOS. Which is of course ridiculous. Keeping the name doesn't mean anything. They killed CentOS as we knew it.

[rickyzhang]

Agreed above. My CentOS stream kernel can't even install NVIDIA driver. This is the first time I removed CentOS. I didn't take it lightly.

RHEL/IBM really duck up the whole thing.