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  • #11
    Originally posted by OneTimeShot View Post

    I use Gnome Shell as the desktop, and it is pretty good. BUT... they clearly refuse to listen. I do want a Start Menu, and I want a Task Bar, and I want the minimise Window controls, and I want my icons on the desktop (or at least the ability to quickly get them there).

    I accept that they wanted to try something new (ok - they copied Window 8), but they've gotten to a point where they should have at least had a Control Panel setting to satisfy people who are asking for a more Windows/Mac style layout.
    Gnome devs couldn't care less about their users' preferences.
    They just flat-out refuse to accept any feedback and insist that users be the ones to get used to whatever random decision they come up with.
    Some of the changes are actually nice, but a whole lot of them are just plain awful for many a reason and more often than not they're not even configurable from Tweaks or dconf editor, thus requiring extensions, which regrettably break on every single release.

    With that being said, Gnome can be a pretty functional desktop after applying a few tweaks here and there, but vanilla Gnome just sucks.

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    • #12
      Gnome haters should start listen to the distributors.

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      • #13
        Currently seeding the ISO torrent for Fedora Workstation 34 while on Fedora 34 (Xanmod kernel, because the stock distro kernel just won't stop "frying" my laptop) already

        Nice way to contribute to availability of my favorite distro

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        • #14
          Originally posted by kon14 View Post

          Gnome devs couldn't care less about their users' preferences.
          They just flat-out refuse to accept any feedback and insist that users be the ones to get used to whatever random decision they come up with.
          Some of the changes are actually nice, but a whole lot of them are just plain awful for many a reason and more often than not they're not even configurable from Tweaks or dconf editor, thus requiring extensions, which regrettably break on every single release.

          With that being said, Gnome can be a pretty functional desktop after applying a few tweaks here and there, but vanilla Gnome just sucks.
          Since absolute most people use applications without changing any defaults it makes Gnome suck hard on the desktop. RedHat continues to insist on furthering a single DE for both PCs and mobile, only they are two absolutely different classes of devices aside from having screens you can stare at.

          Remember, most Gnome/GTK developers are employed by RedHat. Gnome is a RedHat desktop.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by rmnscnce View Post
            Currently seeding the ISO torrent for Fedora Workstation 34 while on Fedora 34 (Xanmod kernel, because the stock distro kernel just won't stop "frying" my laptop) already

            Nice way to contribute to availability of my favorite distro
            How did you install xanmod on fedora?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Avant View Post

              How did you install xanmod on fedora?
              I made the Copr repository for Liquorix and Xanmod on Fedora. Liquorix is decent too, but Xanmod got NTFS3 driver already inbuilt so that's a killer deal for me. I kept most of the upstream config, but changed some to align with Fedora, like SELinux as default security module and SHA256 for signing

              kernel-lqx on Copr
              kernel-xanmod on Copr
              Last edited by rmnscnce; 27 April 2021, 01:40 PM.

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              • #17
                Nice to see that they farmed out the wallpaper design to the animation team from Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by OneTimeShot View Post
                  but they've gotten to a point where they should have at least had a Control Panel setting to satisfy people who are asking for a more Windows/Mac style layout.
                  Windows technically doesn't have a control panel anymore except for historical use. They use Settings now which happens to be more like Gnome settings but will a lot more stuff.

                  It isn't difficult to adjust to any desktop environment though. One just has to be fine with it. In fact, I see no usability difference between Windows and Gnome as they are by default despite the differences.
                  Last edited by ix900; 27 April 2021, 11:48 AM.

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                  • #19
                    tbh i would like to like gnome. but i just can't use a desktop without tray icons as i need apps which need them.
                    i tried extensions - but that sucks. too many times my tray extension did not work after a gnome update. i need my desktop to work.

                    so.. no gnome for me.

                    i also dislike csd - but i could live with that.

                    well i stay with xfce then.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by rmnscnce View Post

                      I made the Copr repository for Liquorix and Xanmod on Fedora. Liquorix is decent too, but Xanmod got NTFS3 driver already inbuilt so that's a killer deal for me. I kept most of the upstream config, but changed some to align with Fedora, like SELinux as default security module and SHA256 for signing

                      kernel-lqx on Copr
                      kernel-xanmod on Copr (currently 4th try on building 5.12.0-xanmod1, should be ready in one and an half hour)
                      Didn't know there was a copr for those kernels. Thanks for maintaining it

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