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  • #41
    Originally posted by set135 View Post
    I suspect most of the demand for this configurability will be handled by the desktops in a more user friendly fashion. However, for example, there already exists wlr-randr for wlroots based wayland compositors as a command line tool, so this type of stuff can still be exposed.
    Gnome isn't wlroots based though. Neither is KDE. Welcome to the fragmentation that is Wayland. And welcome to the world where your options are limited to what compositor-specific tools expose, which may or (more likely) may not include the options you need.

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    • #42
      I really hope they publish an upgrade guide this time around. Too many of Fedora’s releases add great features, but they’re not enabled on upgrade. You need to hunt through dozens of wikipages to discover the changes and how to apply them to your system.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Gusar View Post
        Gnome isn't wlroots based though. Neither is KDE. Welcome to the fragmentation that is Wayland. And welcome to the world where your options are limited to what compositor-specific tools expose, which may or (more likely) may not include the options you need.
        There is a try to use wlroots in kwinFT https://gitlab.com/kwinft/kwinft/-/issues/137 So maybe that could be a thing in the future on the KDE side.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Turbine View Post
          Unfortunately I was using the proprietary driver back then. I had to reduce the systemd timeout.

          I do wonder what using an AMD card would be like in Linux. I only ever hear good things about Linux, rarely the bad. So an honest opinion would be good.
          What distros did you use before Fedora 34(?), it might be that the kernel version was unsupported with the binary driver.

          I would think that having an inexpensive AMD card around for testing would make a lot of sense. Radeon HD4xxx and 5xxx cards look to be super cheap on Ebay around $30, I think that would allow you to answer more questions than I ever could. FWIW I have a lot of Ebay hardware and rarely have problems on opening day.

          I use an AMD chip because everything just works, and I've given AMD cards to close friends just to see if that "clears things up" and it usually does. My guess is that Intel graphics users are in the same situation given how many programmers Intel puts to work on its open drivers. It's difficult to describe or come up with stories, but with how integral these days graphics chips are its important that kernel drivers can be worked on by random people or other interested institutions.

          Many eyes means few headaches.
          Last edited by ezst036; 26 April 2021, 10:27 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Turbine View Post

            Unfortunately I was using the proprietary driver back then. I had to reduce the systemd timeout.

            I do wonder what using an AMD card would be like in Linux. I only ever hear good things about Linux, rarely the bad. So an honest opinion would be good.
            The only opinion that matters is yours. So download a live disk, burn it to a USB key fire it up and let us know what you think.

            Gnome here: https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/

            Other spins here: https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

            Howto here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveOS_image

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Installer View Post
              I really hope they publish an upgrade guide this time around. Too many of Fedora’s releases add great features, but they’re not enabled on upgrade. You need to hunt through dozens of wikipages to discover the changes and how to apply them to your system.
              I just started using Fedora and i'm curios about this. What wiki-pages would one need to look at? Are you referring to dnf-system-upgrade and Optional post-upgrade tasks or have there been other pages in addition to look at when upgrading?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by calc View Post
                There really isn't much on the rpm side enforcing packaging standards to that extent like there is with debs.
                You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
                RPM is the LSB standard package format: https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org....html#AEN63052

                If you want standards compliance, use LSB RPM, not .deb,.

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