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  • Fedora Workstation 34 Should Be Very Exciting With GNOME 40, PipeWire Default

    Phoronix: Fedora Workstation 34 Should Be Very Exciting With GNOME 40, PipeWire Default

    Fedora 34 due out in April is shaping up to be a very exciting feature release as usual with this Red Hat sponsored Linux distribution continuing to live on the bleeding-edge of the open-source software ecosystem. Fedora Workstation 34 in particular is heavy on updates and new features, led by the GNOME 40 desktop...

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ion-34-Excites

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    No word on whether Plasma Wayland as default is go or no go for Fedora 34?

    I've been using Plasma Wayland entirely since the 5.21 beta and its been entirely usable, with only a few papercuts

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    • #3
      im still waiting for xdg-decoration protocol and zwp idle inhibit manager protocol before thinking to move to gnome

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aryma View Post
        im still waiting for xdg-decoration protocol and zwp idle inhibit manager protocol before thinking to move to gnome
        I just skimmed the xdg-dec thread you linked - that is some serious stubbornness from gtk/gnome devs, wow. Ultimately detrimental to the Linux desktop and Wayland adoption

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        • #5
          Grim85 This is about Fedora Workstation. Specially what happens if you hire a bunch smart people and make sure they stay around for senior positions. Stuff like Pipewire happens.

          If you want to pick up news about alternative spins then look at their mailing lists. Don’t expect much very few people use alternative spins.

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          • #6
            Aryma ”If individual applications rely on non-standard behavior from compositors, those applications should get fixed.” -Smart Dev

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            • #7
              I'm still very skeptical about PipeWire. I've been testing it on and off in the last weeks. There are still numerous bugs, PulseAudio/ALSA compatibility issues and hardware incompatibilities. It's promising, but it's just too early for a general rollout.

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              • #8
                Pipewire is a perfect example of how a transition from X.org to Wayland should have happened: all the applications continue to work, the user doesn't notice anything, it's just configuration files that have changed. This is also how Microsoft transitioned from GDI to DirectWrite - all the old applications continue to work, while the new ones are able to get new features.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Aryma View Post
                  im still waiting for xdg-decoration protocol and zwp idle inhibit manager protocol before thinking to move to gnome
                  #217 won't happen. It is not the job of the compositor to draw decorations. libdecoration is the path forward in this new shiny world.

                  #20 is part of https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutte...e_requests/111 and this is actively worked on right now.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Aryma View Post
                    im still waiting for xdg-decoration protocol and zwp idle inhibit manager protocol before thinking to move to gnome
                    From a user perspective I do not really get why people are so invested in which part of the system is responsible for drawing the window border? You never hear these discussions on Mac or Windows. What is relevant is that the different applications support the system used so they get borders, but other than that I do not get it?

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