Red Hat Announces Free "RHEL For Open-Source Infrastructure"

[mattdm]

Literally no one said that at all, at least not on Phoronix. What everyone said would happen is exactly what is happening - a bunch of narrowly tailored free programs would be rolled out, trying to keep from losing the CentOS base of users.

Sure, that imaginary quote was somewhat hyperbolic. However, my point still stands: this isn't a bunch of panicked "remedial action" moves as the post I was replying to says. It's literally doing the moves that Red Hat said they would make in the first place.

[jrch2k8]

Sure, that imaginary quote was somewhat hyperbolic. However, my point still stands: this isn't a bunch of panicked "remedial action" moves as the post I was replying to says. It's literally doing the moves that Red Hat said they would make in the first place.

That may be true but it feels rushed and reactive and that is the problem, this whole Centos/RHEL approach by IBM feels "messy" from the start and non of this measures inspire exactly confidence.

This feels a lot like the SUN Micro systems buyout by Oracle, i might be wrong of course but is the same gut feeling i had back then when i decided to rush out of Solaris as fast as possible (and boy i was right)

[Danielsan]

This is "AUTO EEE", and if people are still wondering what would be happened to RH after the IBM acquisition now you have your answer...

[pal666]

Seriously though, while I applaud the move I have to reckon that most current users who would use this are already on or planning on going to Rocky.

you have vivid imagination

[pal666]

My whole Intranet is running on an open source stack

this is irrelevant. is your whole intranet producing open source software? nobody cares what your intranet is leeching

[pal666]

Ooh, free handouts!

This is not quite what open-source is about.

really? what opensource is about in your crazy imaginary world where every opensource project depends on patented or proprietary stuff? did you read announcement before posting your fantasies? open source gnome project is living on free handouts from redhat. now they will be accessible to other projects

[Teggs]

This continues to look like free-form damage control.

... and people were like "that's not gonna happen they're gonna never make RHEL available for free it's all a money grab", and now those things are being announced just like the FAQ said they would be.

If they planned all of these things in advance, they screwed up badly by not laying it all on the table to begin with. Basically, either their reading of the situation was way off, or they knew people would have a bad reaction, and have a horrible failure in communication concerning the carrot that goes with the stick. They seem to have lost a lot of trust either way, and that is hard to restore.

To me, it appears they laid down the hard sell, and waited to see how much they would have to give back to avoid unacceptable damage. I wouldn't want to do business with people who think that way. If I did, I could be a happy idiot, and just use Windows.

[MrCal]

Why are you guys not running OpenSUSE? In my view it have all what RHEL/CentOS have/had but additional a very appreciated newer stock kernel. I know RHEL do back-ports, but seems pretty limited, at least the features I've been investigating and looking for (kvm, qemu, storage).
I ditched OpenSUSE myself a few years ago because of their website and wiki (a rather superficial reason, I know), but I gave them a second chance now after the RHEL stunt and been so happy about it, that I now run it on all my production servers.
What's you reason not too....just curious? Is it just pure marketing?

[pal666]

I think I am going to stick with Debian stable for my servers

it looks like average whiner never used centos in the first place

[pal666]

CentOS never had the extra packages I miss on my workstation (but don't necessarily care about on a server)

did you check https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL ?