Originally posted by ms178
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and it also does not go away with intels 10nm... why? simple: the 11900K has 5,2ghz
the 10nm cpus with the newest 10+++ node only have 4ghz.
intels 10nm node have more transistors on 1mm² because it is 3D structure but also not true for the AVX512 downclock problem because it is 3D structure the transistors are still "BIG"
means they put more transistors on 1mm² but they failed to make the transistors smaller...
so you see your point just shows complete imcompetence newer intel cpus like 11900K do not solve this problem. also 10nm of intel does not solve the problem.
intel right now build 7nm note the 2D style with smaller transitors without the 3D structure of 10nm... this means the 7nm note will increase the AVX512 downclock from 1,7ghz to maybe 3ghz.
what you do not get is this: intel does not have the 7nm note YET but AMD already produce in 5nm!!! and this is a fact. apple was the first to get 5nm note and AMD also has 20-30% of the 5nm after apple.
this means in the moment intel does have 7nm it is a fact that AMD already have 5nm cpus everywhere. so this means your point is even a failure in 7nm because AMD will have 5,5ghz cpus in 5nm at this time.
Originally posted by ms178
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believe it or not AMD has emulation for AVX512 instruction set to run it on AVX256
zen4 also will not have AVX512 per core. instead it has AVX256 per core and the AVX units of 2 cores can put the units together to calculate AVX512.
Originally posted by ms178
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Originally posted by ms178
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also intels 10nm is 3D structure means high transistor count per area (same bullshit)
and AMDs 5/7nm is smaller transistors and more performance per watt.
"Intel's inability to strike back on newer process nodes during the last several years."
intel for years did big mistake by only care for transistor count per dollar and profit and because of this they build 3D tranistors with many tranistors per 1mm² yes this keep profit and dollar high but it fails on "performance per watt" because the tranistors are still big and need a lot of power.
AMD is multible times better the chiplet design keep the costs low and 5/7nm keep the performance per watt up.
do not expect any good from intel the next 2 years. intel does have 7nm cpus with AVX512 in 2 years. the next 2 years AMD will rule for sure with zen4 in 5nm...
and keep in mind even if intel has 7nm right now their monolite die is more expensive than the chiplet design.
also keep in mind intel also go the downsizing way but they go for ARM-Big.Little design
but apple 1M cpu shows big.little design will not save them because you do not need more than 4 small cores... means even a 16core design with 8 fast and 8 small cores is a failure because you do not need more than 4 small cores.
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