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  • #11
    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    How about https://distrotest.net/index.php?mod...list&letter=F? Lots of Fedora editions to choose from to try out in your web browser.
    Yeah, something like that. But that worked really fast and smooth. I had to wait for minutes for a VM image to be spin up and boot.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by uid313 View Post

      Yeah, something like that. But that worked really fast and smooth. I had to wait for minutes for a VM image to be spin up and boot.
      For a free service, that is more than good enough. If you want something better, you can sign up for any of popular cloud service that offers a number of pre-baked images.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
        Maybe they should run Fedora with WASM on the web, so you could just go to a website and you can try out Fedora directly in your web browser.

        Maybe even you are in a web game powered by WebGL and you run around and go up to a computer in the game and it is running Fedora and you can interact with the computer in the game.
        I dunno about anyone else but I think that (mainly the game but also the former) genuinely sounds kinda neat. Obviously it'd be super heavy, but neat as a proof of concept thing or whatever.
        Last edited by BesiegedAce; 18 November 2020, 06:34 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by aspen View Post
          "Fedora 34 To Proceed With An ARM64 KDE Plasma Desktop Spin"

          There, fixed the title for you.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
            I wonder why they even bother with KDE on ARM machines.
            The other way to look at it is why not? FESCo historically lets SIGs that show they are serious and have sufficient numbers of competent members to support the process to create formal desktop spins. Now that arm64 is seeing more wide consumer availability at a level of reasonable performance a kde spin makes sense to reduce the impedance for the casual user to install fedora with their preferred desktop (while experienced linux users can easily install a minimal Fedora and install the desktop(s) of their choice, a casual user may not want to invest that much effort). Whether you will end up running KDE on an arm64 system or not, it would appear to be a good thing for the KDE SIG for make it available to those who choose to do so.

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            • #16
              Windows, Linux, macOS, iOS, and Android all properly refer to the architecture as "ARM64" when referring to stuff made for 64-bit ARM devices. Just because the Fedora Project drinks the awful ARM naming kool-aid, doesn't mean Phoronix should too.
              Last edited by aspen; 19 November 2020, 12:43 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by aspen View Post
                ...all properly refer to the architecture as "ARM64" when referring to stuff made for 64-bit ARM devices. Just because the Fedora Project drinks the awful ARM naming kool-aid, doesn't mean Phoronix should too.
                What makes ARM64 better than AArch64? ARM officially uses AArch64, or A64 for the instruction set. If you're a dev, you've got a variety of targets, modern ARM 64-bit Cortex-A processors are going to be aarch64, makes sense to not complicate things further. Not like the audience of these images will be average joe consumer who wouldn't care either way as both AArch64 or ARM64, or even ARM 64-bit is going to sound too technical, they'd just see the device as a device and not want to think about technical shit like that.

                Perhaps you get someone who buys a RPi and wants to run a different linux distro than Raspbian, they have an interest in Fedora, so they look for ARM support, or just "Fedora Raspberry Pi", or some article or community discussion that mentions/links the spin. Chances that they care or even recognize ARM64 as a consistent branding across other OS is still probably low for that type of user. It's like trying to argue about GNU/Linux or whatever.

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                • #18
                  (Linux)KDE/Plasma on ARM64(AmLogic) would be very welcome for SBC's, ...
                  In fact, AMD and Intel would also be very welcome for SBC's, instead of these plethora of whack-a-mole zombie android (ARM) boxes that sometimes work, and sometimes don't, even with a mash-a-remote today.
                  Last edited by scjet; 20 November 2020, 11:58 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Let me guess,
                    IBM is also throwing in the towel against Intel CPU's, (just like Apple had recently done), in hoping Amlogic(ARM64) cpu's will save their day ?
                    Last edited by scjet; 20 November 2020, 11:59 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by polarathene View Post

                      What makes ARM64 better than AArch64? ARM officially uses AArch64, or A64 for the instruction set. If you're a dev, you've got a variety of targets, modern ARM 64-bit Cortex-A processors are going to be aarch64, makes sense to not complicate things further. Not like the audience of these images will be average joe consumer who wouldn't care either way as both AArch64 or ARM64, or even ARM 64-bit is going to sound too technical, they'd just see the device as a device and not want to think about technical shit like that.

                      Perhaps you get someone who buys a RPi and wants to run a different linux distro than Raspbian, they have an interest in Fedora, so they look for ARM support, or just "Fedora Raspberry Pi", or some article or community discussion that mentions/links the spin. Chances that they care or even recognize ARM64 as a consistent branding across other OS is still probably low for that type of user. It's like trying to argue about GNU/Linux or whatever.
                      It's just a really bad naming scheme?

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