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  • #51
    Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post

    well ...once you have tried to put a single 4gb file on fat32 you start to care or if copying is slow or when your data is corrupted after power black out. Normal people then usually blame the computerhardware (or the os) for this, but in fact sometimes it is the fs. If they would know they would care.
    But in the best case you should not care about it.
    Nobody uses FAT32, just like nobody uses Pentium II or Windows 95.
    Data doesn't get corrupted on power black out on NTFS or ext4, that happens on Btrfs.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
      People going to lose their data! 😱
      if they will stick to non-checksumming fs like ext4
      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
      Also I think maybe Btrfs might terrible for some applications such as databases. But I don't know.
      smart people mark database files non-cow

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      • #53
        Originally posted by dylanmtaylor View Post
        I love Fedora, I really do, but the biggest con I have noticed is being able to find and install software from repositories, not just websites that happen to have an RPM version.
        those websites usually also have repositories
        Originally posted by dylanmtaylor View Post
        Plenty of things I use frequently are hard to find and I miss the AUR
        well, someone has to repackage rpms from websites into aur, but i don't see how it is a benefit

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        • #54
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post

          Nobody uses FAT32, just like nobody uses Pentium II or Windows 95.
          Data doesn't get corrupted on power black out on NTFS or ext4, that happens on Btrfs.
          EFI boot is always fat32.. 🙃

          Btrfs doesn't corrupt at boot. However bad hardware that doesn't respect barriers can. Even if you don't _notice_ the corruption on ext4 /ntfs, it doesn't mean that it isn't there. You'd have to checksum all your data to be sure. This is what btrfs does and why it can complain.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post

            Nobody uses FAT32, just like nobody uses Pentium II or Windows 95.
            Data doesn't get corrupted on power black out on NTFS or ext4, that happens on Btrfs.
            as said by Spam ....

            Originally posted by Spam View Post

            EFI boot is always fat32.. 🙃

            Btrfs doesn't corrupt at boot. However bad hardware that doesn't respect barriers can. Even if you don't _notice_ the corruption on ext4 /ntfs, it doesn't mean that it isn't there. You'd have to checksum all your data to be sure. This is what btrfs does and why it can complain.
            Considering that some people still have usb sticks with fat32 ... exactly those not knowing what a fs is.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Spam View Post

              EFI boot is always fat32.. 🙃

              Btrfs doesn't corrupt at boot. However bad hardware that doesn't respect barriers can. Even if you don't _notice_ the corruption on ext4 /ntfs, it doesn't mean that it isn't there. You'd have to checksum all your data to be sure. This is what btrfs does and why it can complain.
              Good point. EFI boot partition are like 512 MB though, not > 4 GB.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by madinside View Post

                Contrary to popular belief, most people don't use databases on their desktops. ;-)
                Speak for yourself. As a dev I most certainly have a database running on my laptop.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Wilfred View Post
                  Speak for yourself. As a dev I most certainly have a database running on my laptop.
                  You don't fall under "most people". "Most people" are not developers.

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                  • #59
                    Yeah, sure. Not even possible to upgrade F32->F33 because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1890805

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