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Fedora 33 Released With Workstation Using Btrfs By Default

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  • #11
    I will test this one to see if is good for desktop

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    • #12
      Originally posted by uid313 View Post

      Maybe Facebook only use a very limited subset of the functionality offered by Btrfs, so for them it works very reliable because they never do anything, they never use chmod, fsck, mount, unmount or restart or anything, all they do is read and write and have infinite uptime.
      This is a very good article on why they're using btrfs and for what machines. They didn't mention anything about databases.
      Last edited by iruoy; 27 October 2020, 11:59 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by madinside View Post

        Contrary to popular belief, most people don't use databases on their desktops. ;-)
        You are mistaken, most people USE databases on their desktops. Citation: On desktops this primarily affects application databases (including Firefox and Chromium profiles, GNOME Zeitgeist, Ubuntu Desktop Couch, Banshee, and Evolution's datastore.)

        Source: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas

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        • #14
          Originally posted by dylanmtaylor View Post
          I love Fedora, I really do, but the biggest con I have noticed is being able to find and install software from repositories, not just websites that happen to have an RPM version. Plenty of things I use frequently are hard to find and I miss the AUR so much. Namely VS Code/Atom, Discord, Bitwarden, Teams, Chrome (available from the website), TeamViewer, etc. I feel like Fedora would be a very excellent operating system that I could use on a daily basis if there was more software availability for it.
          For me, I'm using more and more Flatpak apps.
          They work great and always improving.
          They are also consistent across distributions.
          I recommend you try them out:

          https://flathub.org/apps/details/com...chx84.Flatseal

          https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.visualstudio.code
          https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.discordapp.Discord
          https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.bitwarden.desktop
          https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.microsoft.Teams
          https://flathub.org/apps/details/com...eams_for_linux

          I do believe Flatpak and similar technologies will prevail on the long run and will provide benefits on desktop.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Leinad View Post

            You are mistaken, most people USE databases on their desktops. Citation: On desktops this primarily affects application databases (including Firefox and Chromium profiles, GNOME Zeitgeist, Ubuntu Desktop Couch, Banshee, and Evolution's datastore.)

            Source: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
            Just make sure you use an IO scheduler that supports ionice and cgroups (like BFQ) to avoid a lot of issues. According to Facebook, Btrfs is the only FS that works with the cgroups io latency and io cost controler.... https://youtu.be/U7gXR2L05IU?t=1580

            But mostly, when it comes to SQLite just make sure your application is using Write-Ahead Logging which is much friendlier for CoW filesystem. See my earlier post for benchmarks.
            Last edited by S.Pam; 27 October 2020, 12:05 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by iruoy View Post

              This is a very good article on why they're using btrfs and for what machines. They didn't mention anything about databases.
              Did you mean to quote me? Josef mentions the the silent corruption this the video presentation:. But yes, the presentation is more about containers etc. https://youtu.be/U7gXR2L05IU

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Spam View Post

                Did you mean to quote me? Josef mentions the the silent corruption this the video presentation:. But yes, the presentation is more about containers etc. https://youtu.be/U7gXR2L05IU
                I meant to link to this article, but I forgot . I've edited my post now.

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                • #18
                  Wonderful out of the box experience. Install and forget. Congratulations Fedora!

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                  • #19
                    I'm guessing this is going to lead to a lot of headaches at first but also contribute to fixing the biggest papercuts faster and help determine the sensible default configuration.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                      Volta Yup. The high level of QA makes Wayland and systemd features feel like work complete.
                      Not only this, but my hardware is very well supported. I don't have to install some third party drivers. It's a great effort from Linux, Gnome and others.

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