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    Phoronix: Ubuntu 20.10 Beta Released For Testing

    The Ubuntu 20.10 "Groovy Gorilla" beta is now available for testing of Ubuntu Desktop / Cloud / Server products as well as derivatives like Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, and Xubuntu...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-Beta-Released

  • #2
    So another release with significant contributions from Canonical’s desktop team.

    Snap should go away though..

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    • #3
      Don't worry. After a decade pushing Snaps with no one ever accepting it, Canonical will give up on it and adopt Flatpaks, like they've done with everything else (Unity, Upstart, Mir, ...).

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      • #4
        Is Wayland the default for 20.10 or are they still pushing Wayland back?
        I really hope they've switched.
        These double efforts in implementing something in Wayland and then backporting everything to X is ridicolous, especially when it's discontinued.(like the video acceleration in Firefox)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by angrypie View Post
          Don't worry. After a decade pushing Snaps with no one ever accepting it, Canonical will give up on it and adopt Flatpaks, like they've done with everything else (Unity, Upstart, Mir, ...).
          Snaps aren't going anywhere, it's a cornerstone of their IoT offerings.

          Disclaimer: I work for a company who's in talks with them about purchasing such services.

          Snaps might go away in a sense that it won't be used for desktop apps, but the tech itself will definitely stay.

          OTOH flatpaks are just as much of a disappointment to me. Their only appeal is that you can install apps as a user. Otherwise, it's the same kind of dependency hell. Like so:

          Code:
          Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
          Slack com.slack.Slack 4.9.1 stable user
          Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform 20.08.0 20.08 user
          default org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 20.08 user
          nvidia-450-51-06 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-450-51-06 1.4 user
          nvidia-450-80-02 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-450-80-02 1.4 user
          ffmpeg-full org.freedesktop.Platform.ffmpeg-full 20.08 user
          openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 user
          Yaru Gtk Theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Yaru 3.22 user
          KDE Application Platform org.kde.Platform 5.15 user
          QGnomePlatform org.kde.PlatformTheme.QGnomePlatform 5.15 user
          QtSNI org.kde.PlatformTheme.QtSNI 5.15 user
          QGnomePlatform-decoration org.kde.WaylandDecoration.QGnomePlatform-decoration 5.15 user
          Telegram Desktop org.telegram.desktop 2.4 stable user
          All that fuss for only 2 apps, Telegram and Slack. Like why do I need 2 different versions of the NV driver. On top of my native NV driver. Isn't that ridiculous? Not to mention the fact that there was a broken dependency for like a year, which "failed successfully" in the sense that I could still use my apps, but the installation always complained about it. There was a long standing bug about it of course. Also, to this day, I still can't just drag-n-drop images into the Flatpak Telegram for some stupid reason.
          Last edited by anarki2; 02 October 2020, 06:58 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by anarki2 View Post

            Snaps aren't going anywhere, it's a cornerstone of their IoT offerings.

            Disclaimer: I work for a company who's in talks with them about purchasing such services.
            I guess he meant overall, IMO at best snaps will be the Safari of web browsers, at worst - discontinued by Canonical in the mid term, either way flatpak already won.

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            • #7
              davibu Wayland is not default for now. And that is unlikely to change for 20.10. First release after a LTS release is partly about back-porting fixes etc. It wouldn’t make sense to go with Wayland now.

              21.04? Maybe. It really depends on Canonical trusting that Wayland adoption won’t block their current Snap/Flutter/IoT strategies.

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              • #8
                Fedora's next update (34) will have Wayland as the default. Hoping Ubuntu do the same with the option to switch back? Some popular applications don't support Wayland yet which is holding it back. Not sure what the latest story is with Wayland+nVidia either..

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                • #9
                  gfunk Fedora moved to Wayland several years ago..

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                  • #10
                    This is a good release and since it has kernel 5.8 it also includes WireGuard which was included in kernel 5.7.
                    But unfortunately many GNOME shell extensions such as Dash-to-panel, Dash-to-dock and Desktop Icons have not been updated for GNOME 3.38 yet.

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