Originally posted by Neraxa
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Fedora Developers Restart Talk Over Using Nano As The Default Text Editor
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While I appreciate vi[m] are useful, I don't think they should be the default simply because they have a different interface from most GUI editors these days. nano is much closer, therefore more intuitive to start using.
I personally use nano whenever I need to edit something in a terminal since it's good enough when you don't want to spend the time required to walk over to a desktop and copy the files back and forth to allow using an IDE instead of just using nano with ssh and Termux.
I'll eventually take the time to learn more than how to quit vim.
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Originally posted by Neraxa View PostDebating over the default text editor does little to inspire confidence in the project. It is a user settable, and people who use command line should be expert users so know how to set their own default. Non techie users will use GUI start menu to find their text editor under "text editors". Most GUI text editors make a good default since most follow the same paradigm. Projects which argue over stuff like this seem to be the most capable of improving other things. Take a look at the Fedora default GUI, useless rubbish, where you cant configure anything.
All that aside, VIM is ridiculous for even some programmers to use. It is such an odd and esoteric text editor that I think many people learn it because they are told "they should" rather than it being intuitive and functional for them from the get go.
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On first launch the EDITOR variable is set to editor-selector or something like that, which allows the user to select their preferred editor, like this:
Code:Please select your default text editor: (1) Simple (nano) (2) Programmer/Advanced (vim) Input number (default 1)?
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Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
Ooo, time to think of a compromise solution!
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On first launch the EDITOR variable is set to editor-selector or something like that, which allows the user to select their preferred editor, like this:
Code:Please select your default text editor: (1) Simple (nano) (2) Programmer/Advanced (vim) Input number (default 1)?
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Originally posted by tildearrow View Postnano: easy for the typical user; hard for the programmer.
Vim: easy for the programmer; hard for the typical user.
Vi is not an option, as it has a bug which causes it to crash (endless "At EOF") when pressing Ctrl-C while doing a merge commit.
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Originally posted by andyprough View PostToo bad there isn't an easy way for users to resolve this horrible dilemma, like "dnf install nano" or something....Originally posted by tildearrow View Postnano: easy for the typical user; hard for the programmer.
Vim: easy for the programmer; hard for the typical user.
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Originally posted by tildearrow View Postnano: easy for the typical user; hard for the programmer.
Vim: easy for the programmer; hard for the typical user.
Vi is not an option, as it has a bug which causes it to crash (endless "At EOF") when pressing Ctrl-C while doing a merge commit.
I can accept Vi only on embedded systems where there is only busybox's Vi, for a distro on a normal PC/Server/bigger embedded there is NO reason to use it.
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Originally posted by monty11ez View PostI disagree with Nano being an easy to use editor. Easy Editor or ee on BSD systems is the perfect user friendly editor that easily explains how to exit and save files. Nano's control commands are easy to use, but if you don't know what the symbols in the menu mean then you are just a clueless as someone dropped into vi.
On Vi there is no such thing.
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