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  • #21
    Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
    It's mainly software developers, IT types, and scientific workstations that run Linux. Plus the enthusiast/hobbyist crowd. Historically not much different from proprietary UNIX workstations. It actually is a significant market, but as you pointed out, is a tiny fraction of the whole when you factor in business desktops and mass market home users.
    Desktop Linux has at least 2% marketshare as a bare minimum. That's still millions of people.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post

      Half of nothing is, well, let me do the math, hmm, it is still nothing.

      There may be many reasons the linux desktop marketshare is in the noise, but WSL(2) is not going to change that. And the year of the linux desktop will probably happen the same year that IPv4 becomes meaningless and fusion power plants become commercially viable (all of which are always decades away no matter when you ask the question).
      Again Desktop Linux as a whole has at least 2% marketshare at a minimum and that is still millions of users. It's far more than nothing.

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      • #23
        Something must be really wrong with WSL1 because you just can't get faster than metal. it's doing some translations that are just really not optimal. And having WSL2 exist is just kind of pointless because it's just a VM.

        It seems really possible to do.. Sun did this. I think Microsoft is just punting on the problem instead of solving it. (and personally I'm fine with that.. punt away because having WSL seems like a threat to Linux)
        Last edited by k1e0x; 06-17-2020, 06:21 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post

          Pardon my ignorance; I don't have any hands on experience with recent Windows server versions or with WSL. That said, what is the use case for WSL on a server? I thought WSL was more of a Cygwin competitor, something that allows a Windows PC to run Linux binaries. Like WINE, but in reverse. If that's true, then I cannot imagine anyone hosting servers with it.
          As I understand it, WSL1 is more like Cygwin. WSL2 is basically HyperV.

          Windows has some infuriating problems. But it's familiar to many people. I'd much rather run the familiar win10 desktop than pick sides in the Best Linux GUI Holy War. Anything that makes it easier for people to try Linux is a win for opensource.

          But...once you get your brand new cool kid thing working under WSL2...export the VM to stand-alone Hyper-V. Or an azure VM. Or turn any win10 Professional computer into an emergency Hyper-V server if a dedicated server goes down. Insert Microsoft happy ecosystem dream scenario here.

          Virtualization is a commodity. You can easily export a VM and deploy or test it on Hyper-V, VMWare, xcp-ng, VirtualBox, whatever. They are all great and each has it's place.

          Yes, having a (relatively) easy built-in way to test and play with Linux stuff under windows is not for everybody.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by 240Hz View Post

            The exodus from Linux to Windows and fall in Linux marketshare is largely due to the GNOME standard desktop environment
            really ? i switched from KDE to Gnome because of CLA war...
            Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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            • #26
              Why would anyone use WSL instead of Linux? I was thinking about it just today and I couldn't think of any reason. What's a use case for WSL?

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              • #27
                Corporate laptops with Windows only images, locked down bios.

                Being able to use wsl or wsl2 in this situation is much better than using vms (for different reasons between wsl and wsl2).

                Wsl2 has the added advantage of not triggering windows defender

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by duby229 View Post
                  .... It's far more than nothing ....
                  I see optimism bias is alive on Phoronix.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post

                    I see optimism bias is alive on Phoronix.
                    Optimism? What? Facts are what facts are.... There are millions of active desktop linux users. And growing...

                    https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...79#post1187179
                    Last edited by duby229; 06-17-2020, 08:05 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by eltomito View Post
                      Why would anyone use WSL instead of Linux? I was thinking about it just today and I couldn't think of any reason. What's a use case for WSL?
                      For people that rely on linux and use linux daily, it doesn't have any real reason to use WSL, but for people like me, who live on Windows, using hardware that isn't work properly with Linux (using laptop with AMD and nVidia, and i can't make my nvidia gpu work), WSL is a godsend.

                      I usually dual booting windows with plasma on my old laptop. Windows for gaming and working, Plasma for anything fun and hobby related. But today i don't have such a time to close my game and every work, restart my pc, then booting plasma. Thank god WSL 2 appears, so i could compile custom rom easily on windows.

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