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Originally posted by 144Hz View PostCode is easy to fork or merge.
Originally posted by 144Hz View PostCommunities are difficult to fork or merge. The JUMP initiative to merge the openSUSE and SUSE communities has reached the point of no return. That’s my point.
Originally posted by 144Hz View PostSUSE threw in all their resources to make this happen. There’s 100+ posts about this on the mailing lists.
Originally posted by 144Hz View PostThe decision process is in place, infrastructure moved to SUSE, user accounts moved to SUSE.
Originally posted by 144Hz View PostRC products now released etc. First it started as a “proposal” and quickly evolved to a Job Done.
PS and last one sounds a little like propagandism, but I don't see a reason…
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Originally posted by Toggleton View Post
"The kernel in Leap is the same kernel used in SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Service Pack 2. This kernel version is maintained by SUSE"
https://en.opensuse.org/Features_15.2#Linux_kernel
I'd get it completely if they were doing what Red Hat does and provided a stable kernel abi over multiple kernel versions so the machine shouldn't ever have to reboot so their 5.3 might as well be a 5.4 or a 5.6 kernel....but I haven't really seen anything like that from SUSE (albeit I haven't looked very hard) so, from my point of view, it just appears that they pulled a Debian where a committee agreed to freeze software versions on a random date for LTS reasons.
Also, it seems like it would make sense for them to work with Ubuntu who is using 5.4 with 20.04. Got one LTS distribution backporing crap to 5.4 and another LTS distribution backporting crap to 5.3. Seems like that could possibly reduce a lot of duplicated work between both camps.
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Originally posted by mykolak View PostWell as long as I remember for not Tumbleweed openSUSE always heavily backported patches. So I don't think there would be security problems. And as for the new features, IMHO it's better to stick to Tumbleweed to have newer stuff.Last edited by Vistaus; 30 May 2020, 12:16 PM.
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Originally posted by Vistaus View PostSo when it's toolkits like Qt, maintaining old versions is worse than going to Hell because of the supposed security risks
Originally posted by Vistaus View Postbut maintaining old kernel versions with even more security risks is okay. I'm literally stunned.
What I'd be concerned about — some bugs like this one (I was hit by it):
I just got a GPU hang while connected to HDMI immediately after running xfce4-display-settings. Here is the hang log: hang.txt. Here is info on my...
It was present on both 5.3 and (even more severe) 5.4 and only solved in 5.5 and there were some problems with backporting it to 5.4. Maybe they were solved later, IDK. (That's why I like Tumbleweed, but I understand that some people prefer more stable releases.)
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Originally posted by mykolak View Post
"Standard packages" → ?? → "Gnome"
How?Originally posted by mykolak View PostCould anyone explain this? I didn't get it.
144Hz (previously Honton, funkSTAR, Griffin, GhostOfFunkS and Mentalist) is a well-known Phoronix member who has been around since 2013, thinks that GNOME is the center of the universe and that everything else is garbage and should die.
This means that in almost every KDE/GNOME thread he posts something as part of his GNOME worship, demeaning the other desktops (especially KDE).
He has been stopped several times already, but now he still keeps going under this account, and many people are tired of him, to the point we consider him more than just a troll.
His mission is to bring his whole crusade and destroy KDE by somehow spreading pro-GNOME propaganda in every way possible (early-birding threads, proving others wrong, calling GNOME the "upstream", "standard desktop", etc.), which often causes threads to be derailed and hence paves the way to Phoronix War I.
Unless Qt apologizes for their mistake and rectifies it, the war will continue for years to come.
Not even Michael or the moderators have the power to stop it, as:
- there may be backlash coming from his crusade, or
- he would create an account sooner or later anyway.
Welcome to Phoronix.
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