Debian 11 "Bullseye" To Begin Code Freeze In Early 2021

[andyprough]

franglais125 Canonical helps keeping GNOME up to date on Debian. Pretty awesome.

"Package: gnome (1:3.30+1)" https://packages.debian.org/stable/gnome

A year and a half old is up to date? How very Canonical of them.

I guess the good news is that a year from now, their version of Gnome will only be 2 1/2 years old. At the beginning of the freeze. And no telling how long the freeze lasts. So there's that.

[Danielsan]

144Hz Take it easy man, it is true that after 2010 relationship between Debian and Ubuntu improved a lot and lot of Debian devs were employed by Canonical or simply started to collaborate on both projects for the common good of both distros.

[Danielsan]

He has been a Debian contributor since a long time...

https://contributors.debian.org/contributor/seb128@debian/

[Danielsan]

franglais125 Canonical helps keeping GNOME up to date on Debian. Pretty awesome.

When?

I always wondered why they don't snapshot testing instead of freezing it. There are many users and entire distros that heavily rely on testing

Supposedly LTS should be build on Testing rather than SID...

[mppix]

I always wondered why they don't snapshot testing instead of freezing it. There are many users and entire distros that heavily rely on testing

[franglais125]

KDE took forever to update to not even the latest Plasma. Mesa also took a long time to catch up.

Ahh, I see. Yes, the KDE transition was long. I use Gnome so I didn't really notice that. Goes to show how many people can have different points of view of exactly the same thing.

[shmerl]

What do you mean by "barely recovered"? Any specific situation?

KDE took forever to update to not even the latest Plasma. Mesa also took a long time to catch up.

[franglais125]

Hm, we just barely recovered from the last freeze [...] .

What do you mean by "barely recovered"? Any specific situation?

I mean, the python2 removal was quite heavy, but that is tangent to the freezes for instance.

[shmerl]

Yeah, for the most part I already figured how to move packages forward during the freeze. Problem is it can get complicated when too many dependencies creep in, and especially with 32-bit cross compilation can become a major mess.

I wish KDE would provide a whole Plasma suit for Debian testing / unstable, that's rolling during the freeze (or even not during the freeze for that matter).

[GreenReaper]

Hm, we just barely recovered from the last freeze, and the new one is coming? That feels too soon.

Winter is always coming. You're lucky with Debian that it's only every two years! Though it can last for a while, and I get that if your favourite package just missed out on an update, it feels longer.

As it is, the earliest date here is ten months away, and for most it's a year. Plenty of time to figure out how to make a .deb if the freeze is going to be a problem. Many larger projects like Nginx and PostgreSQL have their own package distribution setup offering current packages all the time even for older distributions.