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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostFYI, by "commercial" I only meant they are literally or basically owned by, and therefore can and will cause legal liability problems for, an actual company
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Originally posted by Tomin View Post
This is also true for Fedora. The bug tracker is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ i.e. clearly under Red Hat's domain and also the very same that RHEL uses.
RahulSundaram Went to go look for a line I read on the Fedora page yesterday related to what they're discussing and noticed that if one clicks one Spins, Labs, or Alt Downloads, on the bottom of the page on the footer are links to different projects under the Download category. The entry of Get Fedora Atomic doesn't go anywhere, 443 error, and should be removed and replaced with links to Fedora CoreOS or to Fedora Silverblue since, IIRC, those are what Atomic turned into.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAny bug you report is most likely going to be worked on by RedHat or SUSE employees (I actually know this for OpenSUSE at least as I did report something and they did eventually respond and fix it) and the very bug tracker is on the company's own infrastructure (or they pay for it). This isn't going to hold water in any claim of the distro being "community driven" they might want to make in court after they get sued.
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Originally posted by lowlands View Post
Except for me as I do care for Fedora's ARMv7 flavor Last weekend I installed it on a Cubietruck and it's working great as a DNS, DHCP and TFTP server.
Don't really understand the "downward spiral" thing. Preferences aside, Fedora 31 works well for my use case and I look forward Fedora 32 with kernel 5.{6,7}, Mesa 20, GNOME 3.36, LibreOffice 6.4 and all the other goodies it comes with
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
You can enable minimize buttons if you want, but really they don't serve much purpose in gnome and you can use workspaces and the activity overview instead.
The user wizard is actually quite old and comes from gnome, Fedora is one of the only distros that opts to use it iirc because it doesn't force user creation in the installer.
I know that adds an extra step or two, but I don't mind. It's an aesthetics thing. I say all that and I don't mind drop-down terminals one bit.
That Silverblue installer was pretty bare bones. I wasn't sure if that's just how Fedora is or if that's a Rawhide thing or a Silverblue thing or what. I will say that I did not like their disk selection screen. Two of my disks are identical outside of their serial numbers and if they're not mirrored I use one for a primary OS and one for bare metal testing. It's just a pain in the ass having to go to a terminal to make sure which is which because there isn't an easy graphical way to see partitions, existing file systems, etc w/o doing odd steps with their graphical partitioner (that detected my ZFS volumes as XFS...). Other than that little nitpick, it was pretty much "click, click, click, click, click. It's real easy, man".
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Originally posted by Britoid View PostThey're non commercial distros (try get commercial support for Fedora), but they're still legally liable to their respective companies and form the basis of commercial distros.
Both OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and Fedora are basically free beta testing for RHEL and SLES, while CentOS and OpenSUSE Leap are the "demo" or unsupported version that is otherwise equal to the commercial offering.
Any bug you report is most likely going to be worked on by RedHat or SUSE employees (I actually know this for OpenSUSE at least as I did report something and they did eventually respond and fix it) and the very bug tracker is on the company's own infrastructure (or they pay for it). This isn't going to hold water in any claim of the distro being "community driven" they might want to make in court after they get sued.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostThat's a load of crap and they fully know it, that's why they keep stuff separated like that. Debian does not care. Arch does not care. Their derivatives don't either.
OpenWrt? Never cared, they had exfat kernel driver available since it was leaked in their official repositories, and so on.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostOn an off-note, just installed 32-Silverblue to bare metal. For some lulz, for reasons I had my 2nd monitor disabled on my primary Manjaro install. Completely forgot about that kept on WTFing when Firefox wouldn't open...and then I turned on my other monitor
I liked that user wizard upon first boot. Real professional feeling.
How do you Gnome people deal with no minimize buttons? I gotta get on with Kinoite
The user wizard is actually quite old and comes from gnome, Fedora is one of the only distros that opts to use it iirc because it doesn't force user creation in the installer.
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On an off-note, just installed 32-Silverblue to bare metal. For some lulz, for reasons I had my 2nd monitor disabled on my primary Manjaro install. Completely forgot about that kept on WTFing when Firefox wouldn't open...and then I turned on my other monitor
I liked that user wizard upon first boot. Real professional feeling.
How do you Gnome people deal with no minimize buttons? I gotta get on with Kinoite
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