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  • #21
    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
    Why asking me to prove something to you...when you are the one not with sufficient certainty about what I said?
    Because that's how it works, you make the claim, you get to carry the burden of proof.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
      Choice 9: Focus on systemd and leave the rest to Devuan
      That's just Choice 1...........

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      • #23
        Choice 9: Invent a new init system.

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        • #24
          Go for systemd only and finally get a good implementation of it. Tbh systemd on Debian sucks a lot compared to CentOS or Arch. Especially around the logging with journals.
          It looks like they still keep around some compatibility for Debian "insellosungen" to start demons and log stuff.
          Pathetic.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by monraaf
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            Yet the only one acting like a 17 year old here is yourself.

            Debian should focus on systemd and let devuan upkeep the sysvinit packages, let them eat their own shit for once.
            Last edited by tildearrow; 12-07-2019, 01:53 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
              Choice 9: Focus on systemd and leave the rest to Devuan
              RTFA ... that's Choice 1

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                Yet the only one acting like a 17 year old here is yourself.

                Debian should focus on systemd and let devuan upkeep the sysvinit packages, let them eat their own shit for once.
                You must be new to all of this.

                Devuan has been doing that for a while now. They forked Debian and did things their own way. No sh!t.

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                • #28
                  Yes, a system init diversity is important. I agree.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by monraaf
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                    The Unix init system is great for servers but terrible for desktop systems. Its is very bad at handling responses to dynamic events (i.e. I just plugged a second monitor, I just changed my resolution etc etc).
                    Last edited by tildearrow; 12-07-2019, 01:54 PM.

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                    • #30
                      I still do not understand why this is so complicated for Debian. Political decisions seems to be the main focus judging from all these discussions. As an Arch Linux user I prefer simplicity, if it works it will be added and if it works better than it can become the standard. Systemd solved many long standing issues and it reduced the maintenance burden for the package maintainers, which is quite important from my point of view.

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